It is another case of the parasite killing the host. It happens all the time in nature. I can understand why vines and leaches can't comprehend this consequence but not unions who, after all, have human beings running them.
Isn't it interesting that while Hostess was trying to cut bakers' pay by 8% and benefits by 32%, their CEO gave himself a 300% raise?
Nine of their executives received 60 to 100% raises WHILE FILING FOR THEIR SECOND BANKRUPTCY.
Meanwhile, they stopped paying into their employees' pensions, owing them over $160,000,000.
And let's not forget that the Hostess brands are getting less and less popular, as people opt to eat healthier (and more flavorful) food. (Who eats Wonder Bread anymore anyway?)
But yeah, it's the union that's to blame in this scenario - clearly.
The point is, if you're blaming this all on the union, then you're giving a very incomplete account of what happened. We can have an intelligent conversation about how much damage the union did, but we would also have to factor in the way management was running that company into the ground before this came up.
Gary saves the day with an audacious non-sequitir.
Even if the managers were kleptocrats on the take, offering the public inedible crap, still, still, still, its the UNION's fault that they shut the company down after management shamelessly milked it.
You here me?
Its still the UNION's fault. Because I belong to the National Right to Work for Less Committee, and in my heart, I know I'm right!
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It is another case of the parasite killing the host. It happens all the time in nature. I can understand why vines and leaches can't comprehend this consequence but not unions who, after all, have human beings running them.
Yeah, management always blames unions, but the truth is, their product was garbage, and fewer people are willing to buy it every year.
Isn't it interesting that while Hostess was trying to cut bakers' pay by 8% and benefits by 32%, their CEO gave himself a 300% raise?
Nine of their executives received 60 to 100% raises WHILE FILING FOR THEIR SECOND BANKRUPTCY.
Meanwhile, they stopped paying into their employees' pensions, owing them over $160,000,000.
And let's not forget that the Hostess brands are getting less and less popular, as people opt to eat healthier (and more flavorful) food. (Who eats Wonder Bread anymore anyway?)
But yeah, it's the union that's to blame in this scenario - clearly.
Anonymous, what is the source of your figures?
Miggie, here's one source, The Sacramento Bee, that confirms most of what was written by the other anonymous:
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/11/13/4983174/hostess-continues-pattern-of-misinformation.html
The point is, if you're blaming this all on the union, then you're giving a very incomplete account of what happened. We can have an intelligent conversation about how much damage the union did, but we would also have to factor in the way management was running that company into the ground before this came up.
Anonymous,
If the company ran it into the ground, so be it. Now they have the right to shut down the company if their bakers are on strike.
The point is, it's not the fault of unions that this company is no more.
Or are you going to be anti-union no matter what the facts are?
Gary saves the day with an audacious non-sequitir.
Even if the managers were kleptocrats on the take, offering the public inedible crap, still, still, still, its the UNION's fault that they shut the company down after management shamelessly milked it.
You here me?
Its still the UNION's fault. Because I belong to the National Right to Work for Less Committee, and in my heart, I know I'm right!
And Miggie the Misanthrope says so too!
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