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Tuesday, February 22, 2011

Allen West Is Challenged by CAIR

Hat tip to Shark Tank Video and Hot Air

Congressman Allen West (R-FL) takes a hostile question at a town hall meeting from CAIR executive Nezar Hamze. Watch how West destroys him and his question. Video by Javier Manjarres of Shark Tank Video.






19 comments:

Squid said...

First, thanks to Shark Tank for sharing the video and to Gary for posting the fine example of what needs to happen in America.
Second, thanks to Representative Allen King (R-FL) for demonstrating that he has the "nads" to tell Nezer Hamze, Executive Director of CAIR, not to "blow sunshine up my butt"). For once, we have a Government official who tells it like it is.
I bet that King is waiting, in a "make my day" moment for Hamze to ask for an apology, so he can blast his butt once again.
What we need is more Representatives like King to call out the Islamists for what they are. I would like to see the local community call out Malik Ali and his MSA minions regarding the violence and prescriptions for hatred in the Koran and Hadith. It is very easy to acquire the hate filled language from a website called "Prophet of Doom". Go there and see for yourself. One can be as competent as King when he did the "Schick-Persona-Wilken-Sword-Blade job on Hamze.

Squid

Miggie said...

Fabulous! Allen West is great.

Nezar Hamze asked a stupid question, trying to trick the congressman but instead got his rhetorical head handed back to him.

For some strange reason, these Islamists can't seem to see how ridiculous they are, of all people, trying to play the victim.
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Gary Fouse said...

Squid,

It's Allen West. Don't forget that name. He's going places.

Squid said...

Interesting! I made the same mistake earlier today. This maybe a "parapraxis", which is a simple slip of the tonque or in writing, an expression of an unconscious desire. In this case, Allen West being our leader (King). Perhaps a POTUS

Squid

Siarlys Jenkins said...

This congressman is an ignorant fool as far as the history of the world is concerned. I could cherry-pick a few acts of violence by Christians since 303 AD, but that doesn't define Christianity.

The person asking the question framed it poorly. That's why the ideologue behind the microphone could get away with such insipid hot air. Allen West is going to the same footnote in the history books as the Know Nothings.

Gary Fouse said...

303 AD? I'll even give you several centuries. There was the Inquision and the Crusades, but that was a few years ago. Let's talk about here and now, shall we?

Anonymous said...

2003 AD.

The largest Christian nation in the world (United States) declared war against a Muslim nation (Iraq) that was 1/12 its size in population.

To make matters worse, the US had to enlist other Christian nations such as Britain, Australia, Poland, Denmark, etc. to help with its dirty work.

Infact Rep. Allen West was a soldier in the Iraq War, who was almost prosecuted for committing a simulated execution on an Iraqi policeman. The prosecutor allowed him to retire from the Army instead of facing court martial.

Gary Fouse said...

Yes, anonymous and we removed from power a great leader and man of peace named Saddam Hussein and his two wonderful sons. We put an end to the torture chambers, rape rooms and mass graves.

Stop your belly-aching. Frankly I'm am tired of the US trying to save the Middle East from itself. But when they threaten us, then we have to fight. Otherwise, it's not worth one more American life. And I could care less if West put a gun to the head of a terrorist. At least he didn't cut off his head.

Anonymous said...

"We put an end to the torture chambers, rape rooms and mass graves."

Mr. Fouse needs to watch news other than Fox News.

There have been numerous cases of rapes against both Iraqi men and women by US service members.

Rape, sodomy, sexual assualt, etc. were rampant in the Abu Gharaib Prison.

Gary Fouse said...

Numerous? How many, anonymous? What documentaion do you have for that claim other than the cases investigated and prosecuted by the military itself (Abu Ghraib)?

The difference is, Anonymous, that the US forces are governed by a code of ethics and law, same for Israel, but unlike the people we are fighting. What code of ethics does Al qaeda, Taliban, hamas and Hezbollah have for the people they capture?

Answer? None.

Miggie said...

Anonymous states that the US declared war against a Muslim nation as if nothing preceded it, as if we declared a war on a Muslim nation unprovoked. Just as in the case of the Irvine 11, the Muslims complain about the consequences of their actions and ignore the provocations and other crimes that we responded to.

Rather than quibbling over each of those and acknowledging that nothing, no facts, will change your view of these matters, let me ask you why you stay here.

You are anonymous and obviously speak for some segment of the Muslim community here, so why not explain, if you hate America so much, why you don't go to a Muslim country? Do you think you will change America? or is it you want to extract revenge on us? Is it your duty, as a good Muslim, under Jihad to spread the faith?

As it stands now, it looks like you want all the benefits and liberties you get in "the largest Christian nation in the world" as you put it, rather than living under Sharia law in a Muslim country. You talk the talk but don't walk the walk.
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Siarlys Jenkins said...

Gary, Allen West was talking about the 7th century AD. He then implied that every action by every Islamic-inspired polity ever since had been one unbroken pattern. He's wrong. He displayed gross ignorance. And you want to deal in the here and now, after praising this demagogues reference to ancient history?

Anonymous: Iraq was not "a Muslim nation." It was an Arab Socialist Republic, closely akin to any other form of national socialism. Hussein al-Takriti (who took the name "Saddam" to gratify his ego and cover up what an impoverished little village he came from) tossed an al-Lah akbar onto the national flag at the time of the first Gulf War, in the same spirit that Joseph Stalin called on his countrymen to fight for "Holy Mother Russia" during World War II. Women disappeared under Hussein for wearing a hijab, much less a chador. (Don't mention the burkha, that's endemic to the Pushtun in Afghanistan; it was never worn in Iraq.)

Now, if everyone could stop spouting ideologically pleasing ahistorical nonsense just to work up your favorite crowd, we might get an accurate reading of where we really are in the world.

Anonymous said...

"as if we declared a war on a Muslim nation unprovoked."

We did just that.

Iraq did not commit 9/11 or have a hand in the plot. Saddam did not have WMD's post 1991 much less threaten America with nuclear destruction.

Heck, back in 1990 Iraq never even invaded/attacked America; he invaded Kuwait.

Please don't whitewash the Iraq War. It is the greatest foreign policy blunder in US history, even greater than Vietnam. I'm sure Mr. Gary Fouse lost some friends in that conflict.

I'm Hispanic/Catholic by the way, not Arab/Muslim.

Siarlys Jenkins said...

Invading Iraq was a foolish move, accomplished by gross deception and deliberate manipulation. Nobody hated Saddam Hussein more than Osama bin Laden did, and Hussein returned the favor.

However, the American action had little or nothing to do with Islam. I don't miss Hussein. I don't think much of what we've gotten for all the blood and money sacrificed either. None of this either vindicates or adds to the calumny of Allen West.

Miggie said...

Sorry, it is hard to tell one Anonymous from another, especially when they take the America is the Great Satan view.

Let's look at the provocation issue at the time and not in hindsight.
Saddam fired at our planes patrolling the no-fly zones some 700 times. After 9/11 America had to look at every threat in the world, especially state sponsors of terror. There were sworn enemies of America. There were hostile governments that threatened their neighbors. There were nations that violated international demands. There were regimes that repressed their people. There were regimes that pursued WMDs. Iraq combined all those threats.

In case you have forgotten, EVERYONE believed that Saddam had WMDs. In support of that statement here is a link to prominent Democrats quotations at the time (but have since forgotten)
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/bushlied.htm

Saddam paid families of suicide bombers and gave sanctuary to Abu Nadal and Abu Abbas, who hijacked the Achille Lauro. He issued a statement praising 9/11 and plotted to assassinate Bush, the elder. He started wars with Iran in the 80's and Kuwait in the 90's.

He actually used nerve gas against both the Iranians and murdered 5,000 of his own people with it at Halabja. Nobody knew what he had done with his biological and chemical stockpile.

If we waited too long for the danger to materialize, it would have been too late. Congress overwhelmingly passed the authorization to go to war. The Security Council of the UN did the same thing.

There absolutely was provocation and we did not go into it frivolously.
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Siarlys Jenkins said...

Miggie, I didn't believe those patent lies about WMD, so you can remove the word "everybody" from your sentence and try again. There was provocation. We were foolish to respond to it as we did.

Miggie said...

I doubt if anyone reading my post thought I was saying 100% of the world's population believed it. All the intelligence agencies in the world and all the prominent and significant Democrats and Republicans leaders in the US believed Saddam had WMDs. If you bothered to look at the quotations I offered in support of my statement you would have seen that.

Then again, if you had a separate intelligence network operating in Iraq and knew the truth, then you should have told the authorities. Then again, the MAN would never had believed you so why try?

Incidentally, the Iraqi government did transfer some 500 tons or 3,500 barrels of "Yellowcake" a concentrate of uranium to Canada. Apparently, it had been stored since before the 1991 Gulf War. So the intention to pursue the development of WMDs was present.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/u/uraniumyellowcake.htm

It is easy to criticize now with 20/20 hindsight. It is likely that Iran and Iraq would be in a race to develop WMDs right now had we not taken the steps we did when we did.
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Siarlys Jenkins said...

I take Miggie at his word, and he admits to indulging in hyperbole. Enough said.

Miggie said...

So in your mind, since I used the word "everybody" and that's technically not true because you doubted the existence of WMDs in Iraq at the time, I engaged in hyperbole. Therefore, the evidence I offered in support of my statement should be discounted.

You are so ridiculous that I feel soiled every time I stoop to respond to one of your absurd comments.

I hope I do a better job of ignoring you in the future.
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