Saturday, March 20, 2021

Sweden: Muhammed as a Christian Prophet?

Hat tip Fria Tider. Translation by Fousesquawk.

The conservative Swedish news outlet, Fria Tider, has an article quoting a Swedish theologian to the effect that Christians may also consider the Prophet Muhammad as a Christian prophet.

Swedish Church leader: Christians can have Mohammad as prophet

Posted 20 March 2021 13:16

Caption below photo:  Jakob Wirén is a theologian in the Swedish Church and is on the archbishop's staff.

DIVERSITY. Can Islam's foremost prophet, Muhammad, also be a prophet for Christians? Yes, believes  Jakob Wirén, who is one of the Swedish Church's foremost theologians.

That is in a newly-published book entitled, "To make a place for the other?", in which Wirén devotes a chapter to Muhammad and the role he can have for Christian people. Wirén is a theologian and is on the archbishop's staff in the Swedish Church.

Wirén claims that Christians may well also consider Mohammad as a prophet for Christians, if not only because he was a "defender of monotheism."

"As for the concept of prophet, it is quite open. There are prophets and prophesies even after Jesus' resurrection, not the least of which in the New Testament," he tells the Christian newspaper, Dagen.

Wirén believes that Christians can think of Muhammad as a Christian prophet out of "respect" for Muslims. In a follow-up debate article, he regrets that so many Christians reject Mohammad and that, "the public conversation on Islam is often poisoned by extremism and hate." 

However, claiming that Muhammad can be considered as a Christian prophet meets with (opposition), among others, Dagen's lead writer, Frederik Wenell.  "The idea that Muhammad can also be a prophet in Christian tradition goes both against Christian and against Muslim tradition," he writes among other things.


Fousesqauwk comment: All I can say is, "God save us from our religious leaders". This is a classic example of how Christian denominations are surrendering to Islam out of abject fear. 

It is true that Muslims consider Jesus as an earlier prophet and that Jesus is a figure of respect for Muslims-as is Moses. But that doesn't mean that Islam respects the followers of Jesus or Moses. Note that I am referring to Islamic teaching here-not necessarily all Muslims.

It should also be pointed out that Jesus and Mohammad were two completely different personages in terms of their words, their messages, and their deeds. I will leave it at that.

The efforts of certain theologians-including Pope Francis I- to incur favor with the Islamic world by being dhimmis will not be reciprocated in any large measure, no matter how hard they may try.


Unknown said...

It is Highly Shameful to see Such Views from so-called Christian. Bible. Gospel, Lk. 16:16 says, John the Baptist, was the Last Prophet.
Gospel, john.16:2. Says, People who will kill you (Christians) in the Worship Places, Claiming, they are Doing that Activity as Worship to their Deity.

Unknown said...

The Swedish are really not getting point that all the kiss ass behaviour to these people won't make them behave

Anonymous said...

Must see link on this topic - comparing Mo and Jesus

Gary Fouse said...

Reply to unknown

"It is Highly Shameful to see Such Views from so-called Christian. Bible. Gospel, Lk. 16:16 says, John the Baptist, was the Last Prophet.
Gospel, john.16:2. Says, People who will kill you (Christians) in the Worship Places, Claiming, they are Doing that Activity as Worship to their Deity."


I am the last person who would debate the Bible because I am not a theologian or expert on the subject. Frankly, I am not sure the verse in LUke claims that John the Baptist was the last prophet and I couldn't even find the second one. Maybe you paraphrased it.

Those two examples are pretty mild compared to some of the things I have seen in the Koran, which are too many to list here. I know there are passages in the Old Testament that I find problematic, but these are dusty old pages thousands of years old that nobody follows anymore. Unfortunately, the 1400-year-old Koran and the above passages I referenced are still being acted out on today.

One possible explanation is that while Christians were exposed to the Reformation and both Christians and Jews were exposed to the Enlightenment, Muslims were not. One could argue that Islam could use a Reformation of its own, but I don't see it happening. Martin Luther never rejected Jesus or the Bible. He rejected the corruption of the Vatican. How could Islam have a serious reformation without rejecting many of Mohammad's deeds in Medina or much of what is in the Koran?

Gary Fouse said...

Thank you for that link. The contrasts are truly overwhelming.

Anonymous said...

Lets assume for a moment that Wirén has a point.

Then we should deal with Muhammed as prescribed by in I Corinthians 14:29
29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said.

Note that we should not blindly accept all prophecy or prophets. We have to weigh/evaluate their words. We do that against the Bible, so no prophecy can go against the bible. Mohammeds did so explicitly

Then we are left with Galatians 1:8
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse!

So Wiren, should hand in his theology diploma, as the most elementary steps are beyond him.