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Saturday, June 15, 2013

More Facts Robert Mueller Does Not Know

This past week, out-going FBI Director Robert Mueller testified before the House Judiciary Committee and impressed many viewers with what he did not know.

http://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2013/06/robert-muellers-testimony-on-june-13.html

There is more that Mr Mueller was not aware of.  Rep. Louis Gohmert (R-TX) brought that out with his questions. Mueller did not know that one of the founders of the Boston area mosque attended by the Brothers Tsarnaev was Abdurrahman Alamoudi (hat tip Creeping Sharia), who is in prison on terror charges. Apparently, that never was revealed when the FBI, according to Mueller, visited the mosque prior to the Boston attack as part of their "outreach".

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2013/06/15/fbi-director-unaware-boston-mosque-founded-by-al-qaeda-funder-video/


Hell, even I knew that-as far back as at least 2010.

http://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2010/09/controversy-over-congressional-muslim.html

http://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2013/04/more-on-islamic-cultural-center-of.html
(Go to Creeping Sharia link)

http://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-boston-mosque-scene.html

I wonder if Mueller knows about Yusuf al Qaradawi's association with the mosque. I sure did thanks to folks like Creeping Sharia and Charles Jacobs of Americans for Peace and Tolerance.

http://garyfouse.blogspot.com/2013/04/what-if-boston-bombers-had-been-stopped.html

Rep. Gohmert also asked Mueller about those FBI training materials that were scrapped. Here is a notice about that from the Arab American Institute that gives an insight. It has a link to the FBI statement regarding the materials (Touchstone Document on Guiding Principles).

http://www.aaiusa.org/reports/aai-statement-on-the-fbis-guiding-principles-on-training


"This distinction includes recognition of the corresponding
principle that mere association with organizations that demonstrate both
legitimate (advocacy) and illicit (violent extremism)
objectives should not automatically result in a
determination that the associated individual is acting
in furtherance of the organization's illicit objective(s)."

-FBI Touchstone Document on Guiding Principles statement on training materials

Well, as they say, Hitler built the autobahns, and Mussolini made the trains run on time.


*Update: As to Gohmert's query about the "subject matter experts' who helped the FBI purge those training materials, Steve Emerson's Investigative Project on Terrorism asked that question as well.

http://www.investigativeproject.org/3566/lawmaker-questions-fbi-materials-purge

Here is Gohmert asking Mueller on May 9 about the specific identities of three SMEs, who presumably came from the Muslim community. The concern is whether those individuals came from organizations like CAIR or ISNA, who have been linked to the Muslim Brotherhood.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/TT18vQpxeWE


In the above video exchange between Mueller and Gohmert, it was revealed that the FBI had since provided the names of the SMEs in a classified setting, but that Congress could not divulge those names. Why are they classified was the question Gohmert asked Mueller this week.




9 comments:

Siarlys Jenkins said...

There are facts Mueller doesn't know? Hell, there are facts I don't know. There are facts Gary doesn't know. There are facts Findalis doesn't know. There are facts John Boehner doesn't know. There are facts Morris Dees doesn't know. Where shall I stop? I could rewrite this sentence over 6 billion times with a different name in it each time, and it would be true.

The italicized citation near the end of this post is well established constitutional law. It derives from a number of Supreme Court rulings that, e.g., a known member of the Communist Party cannot be denied a security clearance to work as a blue-collar laborer in a plant handling defense contracts, without individualized evidence that they themselves have engaged in, or are engaging in, some sort of espionage or sabotage. The mere fact that some in the part engage in such acts does not implicate each and every individual party member, who may not agree with the illegal aspects of the party's program.

Its not there because the FBI loves diversity. It's there so that cases developed from FBI investigations don't get thrown out of court.

Gary Fouse said...

There are facts you don't know. Siarlys? Really? You had me fooled.

I find it amazing that nobody in this administration seems to know anything-by their oown admission.

squid said...

Excellent points Gary. The columnist Mark Steyn, in his OC Register piece, addressed the same issue. The title of the column is "Didital superstate useless when it matters", as it directs our attention to the Boston bombers, the underwear bomber and Hasan, the Ft. Hood jihadist. Steyns' concluding remark is "Big Politically Correct Brother sees everything... and nothing." This is exactly the case when Mueller states he claims "I don't know".

“Those who expect to be both ignorant and free, expect what never was and never will be.”

― Thomas Jefferson


Squid


elwood p suggins said...

As someone who has testified before a Congressional subcommittee, I can only describe the testimony of both Clapper and Mueller as extremely embarrassing at the very least and ignorant/incompetent at best.

Gary Fouse said...

El,

And as someone who testified hundreds of times in court or grand juries, I agree.

Siarlys Jenkins said...

So y'all had a more sophisticated way of lying?

Gary, I never claimed to know everything. Its just that, in present company, one could be forgiven for getting that impression, relatively speaking.

Gary Fouse said...

Siarlys,

Au contraire mon ami. I take pride in having never committed perjury, which is more than I can say for H Clinton, B Clinton and E Holder.

You see, it takes no sophistication at all. Just do your job as thoroughly and honesty as you can. When you testify honestly, it is very easy. It is when people like the above lie, it becomes hard. They have to recreate new facts and remember the new facts they created.

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Siarlys Jenkins said...

I believe you Gary.

(No, I'm not drawing an analogy between you and Anita Hill).

It wasn't clear what elwood found embarrassing--- maybe that they didn't lie as cleverly as he did? Hard to tell from his choice of words.

There is no question that WJ Clinton lied under oath -- he admitted it in open court when he had no other option.

The others, I couldn't say of my own knowledge, and I'm not sure anything they may have lied about is of great importance to me. What you say they were covering up would be of importance if that's what happened. But I doubt it.