Natalie Katz is a UC San Diego graduate who also attended last week's event in Newport Beach, in which University of California President Mark Yudof spoke. She wrote down her impressions on her own blog, "But that's Just My Personal Opinion". She has graciously consented for me to cross-post it along with the comments of her grandfather, Mr Harold Katz.
http://nataliekatz.blogspot.com/2010/11/my-question-for-mark-yudof.html
Perhaps, their comments will elicit another response from "ZUG", whoever he or she is. The reader will note, however, that unlike "ZUG", the Katz's have the courage to sign their names to what they write.
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Thanks for posting the link. I didn't know about the situation there but it seems the Muslims are the same on every campus or at least I don't know of any that have anything other than Jew hatred as their core characteristic.
I blame the university for not educating their Muslim students in American culture. The MSU students care more about spreading their poison than getting an education. Those that were arrested at the Oren event were willing to get arrested and expelled just to disrupt his address.
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I read Natalie's post and found that it accurately described the Yudof event. She also spelled out the hatred and anti-Semitism experienced at her University, which is mimicked at UCI. It comes down to the Federation and Yudof diminishing the prejudice against the Jewish students and the hate they have to experience on UC campuses. The OC community must stay alert to further acts of anti-Semitism and hate at UCI, as it appears the the MSU has turned into Alkalima.
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You have a good point there, Miggie. (Take it easy -- Gary had to dial 911 last time I agreed with him, and Findalis said hell had frozen over. I don't want anything to happen to you.)
Muslim students whose families have been in the United States for five generations, or whose families are African American converts, generally have a good sense of American cultural norms and legal foundations, just like third and fifth generation Roman Catholics (much to the chagrin of the Curia).
But Muslim immigrants, and children of recent immigrants, come from cultures and polities where the Muslim faith IS officially supported by the state, and in many cases is an essential foundation of the state. The alternative to Muslim rule would therefore be Jewish rule or Christian rule, and this mindset leads to a very sincere, although misguided, sense that "we must dominate."
The current ambitions of certain Roman bishops, and of some evangelical Protestant sects, kicks up enough dust that it becomes even harder, but a basic education on the First Amendment is certainly in order. Now if we can just keep them from getting hold of the video of Christine O'Donnell asking where in the constitution it calls for the separation of church and state... or at least, give them all a course in The Federalist Papers and de Toqueville's Democracy in America BEFORE they run across "the witch of the Susquehanna Valley."
There is a point I never considered. Those who are accustomed to situations where religion and the state are intertwined as they are in Muslim states would probably project that view of how things must be in other states. However, one set of states has the modesty police and the other has occasional Gay Pride parades.
Law in Israel is basically on the English model except in certain areas where religion has jurisdiction... like who is certified to say what food is kosher and which marriages are kosher, etc. There are workarounds when jurisdictions collide. For example, theoretically, businesses are supposed to be closed for the Sabbath in Israel but the fine for being open is so minimal that you can do business that day if you are so inclined. (Most are closed)
That projection may well account for some of the extreme hostility but I believe that the Muslim states also have an intractable anti-Semitic problem found in the Muslim religion itself. Both circumstances, mindset and religious, are true simultaneously and there are plenty of other reasons as well.
The mindset observation was good but I could have done without the gratuitous and superfluous digs on some Christian clergy and on Ms. O'Donnell.
Back on point though, you would think that the Muslim students would discard their vulgar anti-Semitism and adopt more of the American culture after being exposed to it but it just doesn't happen. For the most part it doesn't happen in Europe or in the US and the universities don't help.
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