Monday, October 4, 2010
UC President to Speak To Orange County Jewish Group
Hat tip to Orange County Independent Task Force on Anti-Semitism
"One person's hate speech is another person's education"
The below article is cross-posted from the Orange County Independent Task Force on Anti-Semitism. It announces a speaking event by the University of California President, Mark Yudof on November 4. The event is sponsored by the Orange County Jewish Federation.
http://octaskforce.wordpress.com/2010/10/02/an-evening-with-u-c-president-marc-yudof/
No doubt Mr Yudof will be addressing Jewish issues at UC-Irvine. If we can go by his previous statements on the on-going controversy involving the Muslim Student Union (aka Alkalima), I would guess that Mr Yudof will express his personal outrage (Yudof is Jewish) at many of the incidents and statements made at MSU-sponsored events -as he has in the past to various groups and individuals. He will most likely, as he has in the past- explain that it is protected free speech-bad as it may be. Certainly, he will defend the actions of his administrators at UCI and other campuses-as he has in the past. Certainly, he will criticize statements made by outside groups and individuals that have sharply criticized the university.
That leads to a central question; is there anti-Semitism on the UCI campus-and other UC campuses?
Keep in mind, the dean of the UCI Law School, Erwin Chemerinsky, has stated repeatedly-before and since he came to UCI that there is no anti-Semitism at UCI. The CEO of the OC Jewish Federation, Shalom Elcott has stated (to me) that there is no anti-Semitism at UCI. The head of OC Hillel has stated in my presence that there is no anti-Semitism at UCI.
"We have a psychosis in the Jewish community that is unable to co-exist equally and brotherly with other human beings. You can take a Jew out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the Jew. And, this has been demonstrated time and time again in Occupied Palestine. And, now they have American diplomats and politicians and decision makers and strategists in their pocket because they have the money."
-Mohammed al-Asi at UC-Irvine, February 2001
See video at: http://www.investigativeproject.org/239/muhammad-al-asi-ghetto-jews
(Investigative Project on Terrorism)
I hope someone in the crowd will ask Mr. Yudof about that. Al -Asi has since spoken again at UCI on more than one occasion.
I hope they will also ask him about swastikas that have recently appeared on bathroom walls at Berkeley and other campuses. I hope they will ask him about a professor at Berkeley who turned out to heckle Jewish students quietly protesting those swastikas.
His name is Andrew Gutierrez.
I hope someone will ask Yudof about Amir Abdel Malik Ali, who has been a regular speaker at UCI for almost a decade. Here he is last May at UCI.
I hope someone will ask Yudof what he thinks about George Galloway coming to speak at UCI in May 2009 and taking up a cash collection for his Viva Palestina convoys to Gaza (read Hamas). Why, Mr Yudof, was this allowed happen-in contravention to UCI's own rules-not to mention US laws against aiding terrorist organizations (Hamas)?
I hope someone will ask Yudof what really came out of that much-publicized meeting with Elcott and three other OC Jewish leaders subsequent to the Oren event.
I hope someone will ask Yudof if he really thinks the UCI-MSU has been punished for their disruption of the speech by the Israel ambassador to the US-especially, since they are now operating this quarter under a new name.
You are probably thinking, "Why doesn't Fouse attend the event and ask the questions himself? He always does at other events."
Correct and great question. Assuming this event takes place at the Jewish Federation headquarters, they won't let me get within 10 miles of the event. That is because the head of the Federation, Shalom Elcott, knows I would ask those questions and embarrass him when he makes his grand statements about how HE and his organization has dealt with the issue effectively in concert with the university.
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Maybe the UCI Administrators have a psychosis as well. I thought that the MSU was to be off-campus for at least a semester. Was that what was finally decided upon?! Somehow, I do not understand al the MSU activities they have advertise for the "Cross cultural Center and other places on campus. Maybe Dr. Yudof can have an answer to that question.
MSU activities as adverttised on the web:
PLEASE NOTE TIME CHANGES
Athan / Prayer Times:
*Congregational prayers are held daily outside the Cross Cultural Center *
Dhuhr 1:00pm/1:15pm
Asr 5:00pm/5:05pm
Maghrib 6:45pm/6:50pm
October 4th - 8th, 2010 / 25-29 Shawwal 1431 AH}:
MONDAY
Sisters' Lunch
After Dhuhr @ Cross Cultural Center
Bring your lunch and hang out with everyone at the Cross!
:
Brothers' Basketball
After Dhuhr (1pm) Meet at the Cross Cultural Center
::
FIRST CLASS
Frosh/Soph Discussion
7pm (After maghrib)- 8pm @ SSTR 100
Frosh/Soph is finally back! After a few years, its back to give you a chance to discuss Islam in a comfortable discussion-
SPECIAL EVENT
Fundraiser for PAKISTAN FLOOD VICTIMS
11am-5pm on Ring Road
Come help out at our action packed booth this week! We will be having a bake sale, and henna. All the proceeds will be going to Pakistan insha'Allah. That's not all! We will also be selling wristbands and Alkalima shirts:
WEDNESDAY
NEW CLASS
Brothers' Family Issues Class w/ Sheikh Yassir Fazaga
11am - 12pm @ Dr. White Room
AlhamdulLah, Sheikh Yassir has offered to hold a class at UCI specifically for us.
NEW CLASS
Sisters' Family Issues Class w/ Sheikh Yassir Fazaga
12pm - 1pm @ Dr. White Room
AlhamdulLah, Sheikh Yassir has offered to hold a class at UCI specifically for us. A lot of times we get the impression that we only need to take a class on Family Issues if we are personally dealing with difficult situations.
LOCATION CHANGE
General Assembly Meeting
5:30pm @ SSL 270
An absolute must for everyone! Our experience is what you make it, so make sure to come and express your ideas and to get involved!
Political Activism Committee Meeting
7:30pm - 7:50pm @ Location TBA
Come out to the first Political Activism Committee meeting of the year. Learn about what the committee does, and get a chance to provide your own input. You will not regret being at the meeting and this is something no one should miss!!
THURSDAY
Sisters' Chai Night!
7pm @ Local Apartment
The longstanding sisters tradition is back! Come to chill and relax with your favorite sisters at a local apartment. Chai nights are one of the best ways to get to know your sisters and a fun way to end a hectic week!
Brothers' Old School vs New School Basketball Showdown!
After Maghrib (7pm)
Meet at the Cross Cultural Center for maghrib. The upperclassman take on the lowerclassman in an annual basketball showdown!
FRIDAY
Brothers Fajr and Breakfast!
The Prophet (sAw) said he who prays Fajr at the masjid recieves reward equivalent to having stood in prayer for half the night. Come roll out with the brothers for prayer followed by some good bagels,
Maybe the UCI Administrators have a psychosis as well. I thought that the MSU was to be off-campus for at least a semester. Was that what was finally decided upon?! Somehow, I do not understand al the MSU activities they have advertise for the "Cross cultural Center and other places on campus. Maybe Dr. Yudof can have an answer to that question.
MSU (Alkalima) activities as adverttised on the web:
PLEASE NOTE TIME CHANGES
MONDAY
Sisters' Lunch
After Dhuhr @ Cross Cultural Center
Bring your lunch and hang out with everyone at the Cross!
:
Brothers' Basketball
After Dhuhr (1pm) Meet at the Cross Cultural Center
::
FIRST CLASS
Frosh/Soph Discussion
7pm (After maghrib)- 8pm @ SSTR 100
Frosh/Soph is finally back! After a few years, its back to give you a chance to discuss Islam in a comfortable discussion-
SPECIAL EVENT
Fundraiser for PAKISTAN FLOOD VICTIMS
11am-5pm on Ring Road
Come help out at our action packed booth this week! We will be having a bake sale, and henna. All the proceeds will be going to Pakistan insha'Allah. That's not all! We will also be selling wristbands and Alkalima shirts:
WEDNESDAY
NEW CLASS
Brothers' Family Issues Class w/ Sheikh Yassir Fazaga
11am - 12pm @ Dr. White Room
AlhamdulLah, Sheikh Yassir has offered to hold a class at UCI specifically for us.
NEW CLASS
Sisters' Family Issues Class w/ Sheikh Yassir Fazaga
12pm - 1pm @ Dr. White Room
AlhamdulLah, Sheikh Yassir has offered to hold a class at UCI specifically for us. A lot of times we get the impression that we only need to take a class on Family Issues if we are personally dealing with difficult situations.
LOCATION CHANGE
General Assembly Meeting
5:30pm @ SSL 270
An absolute must for everyone! Our experience is what you make it, so make sure to come and express your ideas and to get involved!
Political Activism Committee Meeting
7:30pm - 7:50pm @ Location TBA
Come out to the first Political Activism Committee meeting of the year. Learn about what the committee does, and get a chance to provide your own input.
THURSDAY
Sisters' Chai Night!
7pm @ Local Apartment
The longstanding sisters tradition is back! Come to chill and relax with your favorite sisters at a local apartment. Chai nights are one of the best ways to get to know your sisters and a fun way to end a hectic week!
Brothers' Old School vs New School Basketball Showdown!
After Maghrib (7pm)
Meet at the Cross Cultural Center for maghrib. The upperclassman take on the lowerclassman in an annual basketball showdown!
FRIDAY
Brothers Fajr and Breakfast!
The Prophet (sAw) said he who prays Fajr at the masjid recieves reward equivalent to having stood in prayer for half the night. Come roll out with the brothers for prayer followed by some good bagels,
Maybe the UCI Administrators have a psychosis as well. I thought that the MSU was to be off-campus for at least a semester. Was that what was finally decided upon?! Somehow, I do not understand al the MSU activities they have advertise for the "Cross cultural Center and other places on campus. Maybe Dr. Yudof can have an answer to that question.
MSU (Alkalima) activities as adverttised on the web:
PLEASE NOTE TIME CHANGES
MONDAY
Sisters' Lunch
After Dhuhr @ Cross Cultural Center
Bring your lunch and hang out with everyone at the Cross!
:
Brothers' Basketball
After Dhuhr (1pm) Meet at the Cross Cultural Center
::
FIRST CLASS
Frosh/Soph Discussion
7pm (After maghrib)- 8pm @ SSTR 100
Frosh/Soph is finally back! After a few years, its back to give you a chance to discuss Islam in a comfortable discussion-
SPECIAL EVENT
Fundraiser for PAKISTAN FLOOD VICTIMS
11am-5pm on Ring Road
Come help out at our action packed booth this week! We will be having a bake sale, and henna. All the proceeds will be going to Pakistan insha'Allah. That's not all! We will also be selling wristbands and Alkalima shirts:
WEDNESDAY
NEW CLASS
Brothers' Family Issues Class w/ Sheikh Yassir Fazaga
11am - 12pm @ Dr. White Room
AlhamdulLah, Sheikh Yassir has offered to hold a class at UCI specifically for us.
NEW CLASS
Sisters' Family Issues Class w/ Sheikh Yassir Fazaga
12pm - 1pm @ Dr. White Room
AlhamdulLah, Sheikh Yassir has offered to hold a class at UCI specifically for us. A lot of times we get the impression that we only need to take a class on Family Issues if we are personally dealing with difficult situations.
LOCATION CHANGE
General Assembly Meeting
5:30pm @ SSL 270
An absolute must for everyone! Our experience is what you make it, so make sure to come and express your ideas and to get involved!
Political Activism Committee Meeting
7:30pm - 7:50pm @ Location TBA
Come out to the first Political Activism Committee meeting of the year. Learn about what the committee does, and get a chance to provide your own input.
THURSDAY
Sisters' Chai Night!
7pm @ Local Apartment
The longstanding sisters tradition is back! Come to chill and relax with your favorite sisters at a local apartment. Chai nights are one of the best ways to get to know your sisters and a fun way to end a hectic week!
Brothers' Old School vs New School Basketball Showdown!
After Maghrib (7pm)
Meet at the Cross Cultural Center for maghrib. The upperclassman take on the lowerclassman in an annual basketball showdown!
FRIDAY
Brothers Fajr and Breakfast!
The Prophet (sAw) said he who prays Fajr at the masjid recieves reward equivalent to having stood in prayer for half the night. Come roll out with the brothers for prayer followed by some good bagels,
Maybe the UCI Administrators have a psychosis as well. I thought that the MSU was to be off-campus for at least a semester. Was that what was finally decided upon?! Somehow, I do not understand al the MSU activities they have advertise for the "Cross cultural Center and other places on campus. Maybe Dr. Yudof can have an answer to that question.
MSU (Alkalima) activities as adverttised on the web:
MONDAY
Sisters' Lunch
After Dhuhr @ Cross Cultural Center
Bring your lunch and hang out with everyone at the Cross!
:
Brothers' Basketball
After Dhuhr (1pm) Meet at the Cross Cultural Center
::
FIRST CLASS
Frosh/Soph Discussion
7pm (After maghrib)- 8pm @ SSTR 100
SPECIAL EVENT
Fundraiser for PAKISTAN FLOOD VICTIMS
11am-5pm on Ring Road
WEDNESDAY
NEW CLASS
Brothers' Family Issues Class w/ Sheikh Yassir Fazaga
11am - 12pm @ Dr. White Room
AlhamdulLah, Sheikh Yassir has offered to hold a class at UCI specifically for us.
NEW CLASS
Sisters' Family Issues Class w/ Sheikh Yassir Fazaga
12pm - 1pm @ Dr. White Room
General Assembly Meeting
5:30pm @ SSL 270
An absolute must for everyone! Our experience is what you make it, so make sure to come and express your ideas and to get involved!
Political Activism Committee Meeting
7:30pm - 7:50pm @ Location TBA
Come out to the first Political Activism Committee meeting of the year.
THURSDAY
Brothers' Old School vs New School Basketball Showdown!
After Maghrib (7pm)
Meet at the Cross Cultural Center for maghrib. The upperclassman take on the lowerclassman in an annual basketball showdown!
For the most part, it IS free speech. I am acquainted with an orthodox rabbi who fought in the 1967 war and was born in the disputed land between Romania and Hungary, who affirms that Frank Collins had a right to march in Skokie, and Skokie residents (including the large Jewish population) had the right to counter-protest. He had confidence most people can recognize who is a jerk. Likewise, he has the right to throw out of his house someone whose speech is offensive, but they have a right to stand on a public sidewalk repeating whatever got them thrown out of the house. Private property and public space are two different things.
Now the real issue with MSU is when they attempt to suppress the free speech of other people, e.g., those who support Israel to some degree. By "to some degree" I mean, from those who are committed to Israel's existence, but deplore the policy of its government, to those who proclaim "My Israel, right or wrong," and several shades in between.
"Now the real issue with MSU is when they attempt to suppress the free speech of other people, e.g.,"
Which is the reason the MSU was suspended...sorta....kinda....
You can come and attend the event because it will be held at Temple Bat Yahm. You won't be turned away and you will get the same chance as everyone else to ask a question. I've got a few to ask as well.,,more along the line of questioning the justification the MSU always gives for their outrages... they were only criticizing Israel and not the Jewish people.
This is a fig leaf as most of the hate speech is anti-Semitism masquerading as ant-Israel. It is like saying you love the Catholics but hate everything the Pope does.
Judaism and Zionism are interlinked. There is no Zionism without Judaism and no Judaism without Zionism. Yudof, as a Jew, should know this.
He should also know that the separation of the two is the false intellectual underpinning of the MSU excuses. They have a monomaniacal, pathological, obsession with Israel elevating its importance above every other problem in the world, particularly the problems in the Islamic countries.
There is a question for him somewhere in there, I just have to figure out how I can frame it.
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Miggie,
Thanks for the update. The Bat Yahm temple is not the property of the Federation.
Frankly Miggie, I love Catholics, and hate a great deal that the Pope does. More to the point, I deny that the Bishop of Rome is Christ's Vicar on Earth, that he has power over diddly squat, in heaven or on earth, or that he is infallible at any time, ex cathedra or otherwise. But I still love Catholics. If the Pope could call them up as an army to enforce his will upon the earth, I would with regret kill any Catholic in his army. Thank God we don't have to worry about that.
You are correct that there is no Zionism without Judaism. However, you are wrong that there is no Judaism without Zionism. The same rabbi I mentioned earlier is fervently pro Israel for one reason, so much of the world's Jewish population now lives there, but he still insists that Zionism, by origin a secular and/or reform Jewish movement, had no valid religious reason to promote immigration to Israel. "Next year in Jerusalem" can be effected by God whenever God chooses, rather than by a secular and heavily socialist-tinged political movement. Jews can practice Judaism without Zionism.
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