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Friday, August 27, 2010

Rauf "Off-Mic"

Hat tip to Atlas Shrugs

Atlas Shrugs has posted a fascinating audiotape of a conversation between Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and radio host Mark Sommer in June 2006. The discussion was caught on tape on Sommer's radio show, "A World of Possibilities". It begins at the conclusion of the interview when both speakers assumed the mic was off.

It was not.

The tape runs about 13 minutes, but is well worth it. It gives an insight into Rauf's true agenda. Listen carefully to Rauf's analogies with football.



Let's cut beyond the soft-spoken style of Rauf's words and analyze them carefully. First of all, if this man is a "bridge-builder", whose mission in life is to foster peace and friendship between Islam and the non-Muslim world, then football is a strange analogy to use. What grand strategy is involved in a sincere effort in making friends? What "plays" are needed? Rauf talks about offense and defense. Everybody knows that offenses and defenses are constantly trying to outwit each other with their plays. Everybody knows that the objective in football is victory over the other side.

What possible analogy can be made between building bridges, making friendships and "plays"? What are some of the plays we see in football; the safety blitz, the reverse, double-reverse, statue of liberty, option play, hook and ladder, draw play, etc. All designed to fool the other side, right?

"But wait a minute, Fouse. How do you know that Rauf wasn't talking about soccer?"

Same thing. Soccer has plays and strategies even if we Americans don't understand them. Besides, if he was talking about soccer, what is the reference to sending in a particular player (like President Obama) for a particular play? No, Rauf is talking about American football.

You see, Rauf is talking about deception here. Football is among other things, a game of deception and strategy.

"Take what you can get."

What this tells me is that Mr Rauf is another deceiver, a man who poses as a moderate, a friend, but a man whose eventual goal is a world under Islam. He knows he won't live to see it, of course, but to men like Rauf, it is a long term project which can be accomplished in the long term without bloodshed.

"Give up on Israel."

Of course. In Rauf's vision, the US must abandon Israel eventually. He talks about an eventual accord between Israel and the Palestinians, but it is just another step in the process to the eventual disappearance of the Jewish state.

"Recognize Hamas." Yes, recognize a terrorist organization that categorically rejects any idea of negotiating with the Jewish state.

What Rauf is practicing is nothing more than deception with the West (Taqiyya), making the West think that reconciliation and friendship is the goal, when it is conquest-albeit in a peaceful manner, unlike the bin Ladens of the world. The goal is America as an Islamic state under shariah law, which Rauf has pretty much acknowledged in his comments about America becoming "shariah compliant".

And what is Madeline Albright's "useful idiot" role in all this, pray tell?

And to refer to the presidents of the US, UK and Malaysia as "players sent into a game for a particular play?" That kind of reminds me of when the Steelers had "Slash" Kordell Stewart, who would come in for a play or two and run a double-reverse, option pass or something like that.

Taqiyya or just a "useful idiot" option play?

Building bridges is not a strategy that involves deception and taking what you can get at the moment. It is a sincere, open attempt to live side by side in peace, respecting the other's right to exist as they are. It is not football or even soccer or chess. Football, on the other hand, is something entirely different. Who was it, Vince Lombardi, who said, "There is no substitute for victory"?

This man is no bridge builder.

11 comments:

Lance Christian Johnson said...

It could be even worse though. He could be talking about cricket! Imagine that! Oooohhhh...ominous!

Gary Fouse said...

C'mon Lance, You fancy yourself as a critical thinker, don't you? How do you read between the lines and interpret that stuff? I'd really like to know your take on that discussion. I told you mine. Tell me yours. (no pun intended)

Squid, said...

Imam Rauf is a very clever and deceptive man. He reminds me of David Axelrod with his very slick chess board moves experienced in the Obama Administration. Rauf is as narcissitic as Obama, in that he expects Presidents to report to him, as the captain of the soccer team. But, as clever as Rauf appears, he makes major mistakes. One mistake is to call his soccer team the: Cordoba Initiative". Thank you Rauf, because Cordoba symbolizes the conquest of Europe by Muslim armies. The Al Aqsa mosque built upon the Temple Mount is the same story, supremacy over Jews and Christians.
This soccer game is as obvious as creating a team named the ""Crusaders", led by "Crusader Rabbit", to build a Temple in Jerusalem, using the Western Wall as one of the sides of the building.

Squid

Gary Fouse said...

Actually Squid, he reminds me of Obama himself.

Siarlys Jenkins said...

Like I already posted over at Alexandria, there's nothing there Gary. Nothing. JohnE isn't sure you can handle the nuances. I think maybe you can. You project an intelligence more akin to William F. Buckley, Jr. than to Sarah Palin, but when you sink your teeth into whatever prey you see running by, you have a hard time knowing when to let go.

Gary Fouse said...

Well, Rauf is the topic of the day, isn't he? Nothing there? Why is it that you go so deep and analyze my posts to extremes with your interpretations, but cannot see what this man is saying?

Lance Christian Johnson said...

Gary, I think that you're seeing what you want to see with this guy. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I'm his biggest fan, but I haven't heard anything that makes me dislike him either. Are there things with which one can disagree? Sure.

Let me put it this way. Usually when you write about various Imams, like that one nutbar whom you've debated with in-person at your school, I don't comment because I agree with you. (I don't remember his name.) That guy's certifiable. A bunch of others that you've written about are as well. Rauf though? I'm just not seeing it.

You know that I'm not apologist for Islam. Despite the words that Miggie recently put in my mouth, I've never been one to proclaim the "Islam is a religion of peace" spiel. Remember when we both took that one Muslim to task for not understanding the basic concept behind free speech? I'd have no problem criticizing this guy if I heard something worth criticizing.

And like I said before, the guy's a Sufi. I've been reading about them. They're almost like a completely different religion in some respects. (I believe the analogy I used before fits - they're like the Unitarians of Islam.)

Gary Fouse said...

Lance,

I also have hope in the Sufis. The blog I have linked, Center for Islamic Pluralism, is Sufist. But on the other hand, I am a Methodist. So what?

I freely acknowledge that Rauf is not Amir Abdel malik Ali. Nor is he a bin Laden. I assume he doesn't believe in Islam triumphing through violence. Make no mistake however, he envisions a world under Islam some fine day-50 years from now or 150 years from now-under shariah law-which has some violent provisions.

I ain't buying this guy's act.

Lance Christian Johnson said...

I also have hope in the Sufis. The blog I have linked, Center for Islamic Pluralism, is Sufist. But on the other hand, I am a Methodist. So what?

What Sufis are to Wahhabists, Methodists are to the KKK.

And again, you keep ignoring what Siarlys and I have pointed out again and again regarding Shariah. It's not some clear-cut thing. It means different things to different Muslims. If Rauf supports it, I'm more interested in knowing what it means to him. If it matches up with what somebody like Bin Laden would say, then I'm on board with you.

Gary Fouse said...

"Shariah. It's not some clear-cut thing. It means different things to different Muslims."

I realize that places like Indonesia and Turkey have enjoyed a more relaxed version, and I know from first-hand experience that Turks enjoy their alcohol.

Shariah however is the legal code for Islam. You might want to check out Nonie Darwish's explanation of shariah in "Shariah for Dummies". It's going around the internet.

Then you can argue with her over the issue.

Siarlys Jenkins said...

I don't ask Dummies to explain Shariah to me. If I need a ...for Dummies on any subject, I wouldn't be talking about it.

Millions of Christians talk every Sunday about looking forward to when every knee in America shall bow, and every tongue confess, that Jesus Christ is Lord. Some of them would worry me more than Rauf, except I know our institutions and traditions are stronger than that. Does Rauf mean it like, it would morally gratify me if it happened? Or, in fifty years we're going to spring a trap on you all? The latter seems highly dubious.

P.S. I'm a Methodist too, but I am kind of lax about this three-in-one deal.