If you want to know why Arizona said "enough is enough" and passed the immigration law, read this article by State Senator Sylvia Allen in the Tucson Citizen:
http://tucsoncitizen.com/the-cholla-jumps/2010/05/01/state-senator-sylvia-allen-responds-to-sb1070/
Still wanna boycott Arizona?
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Sure, why not, although I had no reason to go there or buy anything from there anyway. The point is not the truth of the provocation, the point is, would this law be a good way to respond? This law is the statutory equivalent of a temper tantrum, lying on one's back flailing arms and legs wailing for attention.
Let's see if it works out. The Fed Govt has skirted its duty for too long. That's one reason AZ acted.
I've been boycotting them all along and never realized it!
In all seriousness, this woman really isn't making your case very well. I'm more impressed with some of the responses that she got. She strikes me as being pretty ignorant. "Koran bibles"? Seriously? She also doesn't know how to use apostrophes, nor does she understand what socialism is (like most conservatives nowadays).
And how the heck is this going to stop the issues at the border? It's a lot of fear-mongering and dodging the issue.
Fear mongering? Tell that to the folks who live near the border!
If you want to know how the Arizona law works in real time, come to Prince William County, Virginia. They've been taking the very same enforcement action at the local level for over a year. There have been no complaints of profiling nor have there been any untoward incidents. Even the fast food restaurants are still fully staffed! The temper tantrum is not by Arizona but by the liberal-progressives who see a possible block to their ready-made underclass. And their ignorance of Arizona's law and the lies that they have told remind me more of a whiney baby that's lost its' toy. Wait! Wasn't the crying baby the alternate symbol of the Democrat Party? Sure fits now, that's for sure.
Gary, do you think that this law will solve any of those problems at the border? If not, then fear mongering is exactly what she's doing.
No, it doesn't control the border, but the message is getting through that the federal govt is not doing its job. It will be effective in getting some bad-asses out of here.
I stand by my point then. If this was a law to create a more effective border patrol, then her examples would make sense. Otherwise, it is nothing but fear mongering and has little to do with the issue at hand.
Lance,
Don't overlook the fact that Phoenix is the kidnap capital of the us. This law can help alleviate that.
This law can NOT help alleviate the fact that Phoenix is the kidnap capital of the world! That's the kind of non sequitir that makes defenders of the law so absurd.
By the way, if good free enterprise American employers were not offering people who cross the border without papers jobs, and if good well-heeled Americans were not paying good old American dollars for the drugs, there wouldn't be an underclass for liberals to cry over. But liberals aren't the ones who really defend undocumented immigrants anyway -- liberals hire them to keep the house clean and take care of the kids.
liberals hire them to keep the house clean and take care of the kids
I've known more than a few conservatives who complain about illegal immigrants and yet they hire them just the same.
I take the Senator's word for what the situation is in Arizona. If that is the case, and I don't think there is any dispute about that, and the federal government has not taken effective action to secure the border or to protect these citizens, then the Arizona legislature made the only rational decision they could make to protect and defend those they were elected to protect and defend and who they swore to protect and defend.
I'm sure they would rather the federal government fulfill this responsibility but that wasn't happening. There is nothing racist in the bill and I just don't believe that racists passed the bill just so they could harass Mexicans.
It is suicidal to ignore the fact that 99% of the illegals in Arizona are Mexican just as it is suicidal to ignore the fact that 99% of terrorists are Islamic extremists. To deny that is to deny observable phenomena for a politically correct agenda.
Virtually every segment of society and both political sides have been compromised by this problem.
If anyone should feel guilty it is those who rule Mexico for hoarding all the wealth for themselves and refusing to provide decent education and employment oportunities for Mexico's people.
I think that Sylvia Allen should feel guilty for not understanding how to use apostrophes.
I saw Jay Leno at Correspondent Dinner his best line was; “That was my favorite story (this year) Republicans and a Lesbian bondage club. It’s ironic, Republicans don’t want lesbian getting married but they do like watching them “tie the knot”. So I thought that was interesting.”
You can say the same about Tea Party (they are haters not debaters or as others have dubbed them screamers not dreamers), they say they respect the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence but they do not mind passing laws, through weak Governors (no one voted for this crazy) who only care about getting reelected on the backs of undocumented workers, that will not pass Constitution muster, just like Arizona’s House Bill 2779 from two years ago and your MLK Day ban, keep passing them Arizona and the rest of us will continue to challenged them in a court of law and you will fail again (and yes we will Boycott Arizona). Their phony patriotism is sickening; they are just racists going by another name. We all know you are just itching to put a sheet on their head? Let’s face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with health care, immigration, climate change and financial oversight and governance and they failed. It appears that the Republican Party is only good at starting wars (two in eight years, with fat contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing line of body bags that keep coming home. The Republicans party will continue turned inward to their old fashion obstructionist party (and their Confederacy appreciation roots) because they continue to allow a small portions (but very loud portion) of their party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to rule their party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions). The Birthers and the Tea party crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and people like Hamilton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt believed that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now it’s about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits and the crazy Birthers who have not learned that the way our courts work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked internet lies, then, and only then, do you proceed to trial. The Birthers seem to be having a problem with their so called “facts”. Let’s face it no one will take the Birthers seriously until they win a case, but until then, you will continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. I heard that Orly Taitz now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC), she wants to re-establish a family values party, that’s like saying that the Catholic Church cares about the welling being of children in their care, too late for that. Yee Haw!
There it is folks; the history of the world according to Montana-all in one sentence.
LOL
Large scale Mexican immigration began between the 1940s and 1950s, when Texas agricultural enterprises began to seek migrant labor to work in their fields. At first it was temporary, seasonal, go back home for the rest of the year, relatively short distances. Then growers in other parts of the country, as far away as Michigan, asked if they could get in on some of that labor. Of course, anyone with a bit of ambition, or even who cared for their family, cheerfully moved out of the low-paid seasonal agricultural work, housed in shacks fit only for a few weeks of summer occupancy, at best, and cheerfully accepted any better jobs they could move into. California, of course, got into it in a big way, especially after their Okie migrant labor was soaked up be defense plants, which paid better and allowed them to buy their own little house. And from that beginning, it just grew. Now its a well established institution. Its not going to go away because some state passes a law to check people's papers.
Its true that a comprehensive federal response is needed. Unfortunately, the competing political pressures have left congress in gridlock. Bush couldn't secure Republican support to get a bill through, Obama can't get enough Democratic support (even though unions are now so substantially Hispanic that they don't obstruct the way they used to) or a smidgeon of Republican support, so nothing happens. This state law doesn't make anything better.
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