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Friday, March 26, 2010

The Emanuel Cleaver Spitting Incident

Hat tip to Hot Air

Here is a video that catches (sort of) the purported incident last Sunday where Rep. Emanuel Cleaver claims a demonstrator "allowed his saliva to hit my face". It occurs at about the 1:20 mark.



After viewing this, one has to ask, was this a deliberate spitting incident or did the man in question simply accidentally spray some spittle while shouting at the congressmen passing by?

Meanwhile conservative activist Andrew Breitbart (he of the ACORN tapes and Big Government.com) is offering $10,000 to anyone who can produce video/audio evidence of racial slurs being hurled by the crowd. Who knows, maybe it's in the video. I listened a couple of times, and I couldn't detect anything, but have at it.

11 comments:

Gary Fouse said...

Why cause he was yelling kill the bill? Look, if he intentionally spit on Cleaver, he should have gotten his ass kicked. But if it was unintentional, that's a big difference.

Lance Christian Johnson said...

Because of the crazy, maniacal look on his face.

Findalis said...

Could have been worse, he could have been shouting in Klingon. then the Congressman would have been showered in spit.

Gary Fouse said...

Can you see the crazy maniacal look on his face from that shot?

Lance Christian Johnson said...

How can you not? Seriously? These people seem reasonable to you?

Look, I'd say the same thing even if they were chanting something with which I agreed. He could have been screaming, "Ice cream is yummy! Ice cream is yummy! Ice cream is yummy!" and I'd still think that he was a loon.

Gary Fouse said...

Lance,

I find it amusing that when, once every blue moon, everyday folks get riled up enough to turn out and protest something, the left and the media is there to call them a crazed mob. How many people were there? Several hundred? Several thousand? That tape shows them chanting "boo" and "Kill the bill".

Call out the National Guard!!!

I have addressed the question of whether a few folks used
inappropriate language or one guy intentionally spit on Cleaver. If so, I condemn it. But it doesn't paint the whole crowd as MSNBC would have us believe. All we can conclude 100% from the tape is that they were yelling "Boo" and "Kill the Bill".

Did they keep the congressmen from entering the capitol? No.

Yet, when we see college kids breaking windows, throwing objects at police and shutting down others' rights to speak, that is all freedom of expression/speech.

Lance Christian Johnson said...

Are you trying to argue points that I've been making? 'Cause, as usual, you aren't.

Gary Fouse said...

Lance,

What point did you make other than the guy in the video is a loon?

Lance Christian Johnson said...

Just that...and I stand by it. Just because he didn't stop the guy from entering, that doesn't make him not loony.

The guy was clearly acting out of some kind of intense fear. Fear of what, exactly, I don't know. All I know is that every time I see footage of these Tea Party people, they come across as fanatical and/or ignorant - and this isn't just from footage that the left provides, it's even footage that YOU'VE linked. (Like that crazy lady who asked Barney Frank why he supported a "Nazi" policy.)

Whenever these people are asked any questions, all they do is repeat talking points or slogans. They can't even articulate what's in the bill. And even worse, they throw words like "socialism" around while making it clear that they don't understand the concept.

Is it possible that there are some of them out there who don't match this description? I suppose so. I've yet to see any, but in all honesty, I want to be wrong about this.

Gary Fouse said...

I guess you could call it fear. Fear that he is losing his country. Fear that he is going to be taxed into the poorhouse. It's the same old thing. We shrug when college kids or disgruntled leftists break windows, throw rocks and cops and do real damage, but let everyday folks turn out, hold signs and chant slogans-and it's a crazed mob.

I do have good news for you.

"Is it possible that there are some of them out there who don't match this description? I suppose so. I've yet to see any, but in all honesty, I want to be wrong about this."

You are wrong.

Lance Christian Johnson said...

You are wrong.

Still waiting on some evidence for that...

And this whole "fear that he is losing his country" thing is so absurd. Losing it to what, exactly? How is his life different now than it was before Obama took office? Where were these people when Bush took us into two botched wars (botched due to him and his people - not the military who would have gotten the job done if only they had been allowed to do so.) How the heck did they think we would pay for THAT?

This is another one of those slogans that sounds so ominous, but it means absolutely nothing when given just a little bit of scrutiny.

And why are people like that "everyday" people? What, I'm not everyday? My friends aren't everyday? The majority of people who voted for Obama, who knew that health care reform was a high priority for him, aren't everyday people either? Talk about elitism!