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Monday, September 14, 2009

Joe Wilson-Enough is Enough




I had never heard of Congressman Joe Wilson (R-SC) until his outburst at President Obama's speech before Congress. I remarked at the time that he had apologized and that such apology was appropriate. That should have been the end of it. But of course, it's not.

As anyone with half a brain could have predicted, the Democrats and their allies in the media won't let go of the story. The Dems want Wilson to apologize before Congress, apologize here, apologize there. The media keep writing about it, and of course, it is being used as a prop to condemn everybody who is against Obamacare.

One point seems to be lost in the furor over Wilson's calling the President a liar ("You lie!") over the illegal alien health care coverage issue. Obama, in his own words, had referred to his health care opponents' positions as "lies", "false" and "misinformation". And he was looking directly at the Republican side of the aisle when he said it. So who is calling who a liar?

In addition, what will happen when the government passes a new amnesty and all those illegal aliens become-LEGAL? You know that's on the "to-do" list.

At any rate, the new tact (or is it the old tact?)is to denigrate all those people you saw marching in the streets of Washington last week, all the people who go to the tea parties, all those 1.3 million who signed the Save Our Health Care Now petition and accuse them of being Nazis, un-American, extremists, uninformed, etc.

And, of yes; we are also racists. We are "revolting against the idea of having a black man in the White House". Jeanine Garofalo was "right" months back when she told an agreeing Keith Olbermann that we are all "red neck racists".

This is how the White House, the Dems in Congress, the leftists and, of course, the media are portraying us. It is wrong, it is unfair, and it is a lie. How many times do you have to watch the videos of these tea parties to realize that these are ordinary adults, mostly middle-age or older, who are genuinely concerned about what Obamacare will do to them. They are concerned about the massive government takeover of power and control over our lives. They are outraged over the all-too-clear government corruption.

And how many violent episodes have you seen in the tea parties? None. A couple of town hall events were marked by scuffling-committed by pro-Obama health care goons from the SEIU. How many riots have broken out at these tea parties? None. How much property damage has been committed? None. How many racist posters have you seen or racist comments have you heard? None. Yet, to hear the left and media describe it, these participants are all from the "lower social orders". And it is all about President Obama's race.

That is a lie.

So as for Joe Wilson, as far as I am concerned, he has done the right thing and apologized. I am glad that he has stated that there will be no more apologies; no "sack cloth and ashes" tour for him. The President has accepted his apology, and that is sufficient. Wilson-and the rest of us- should tell Congress and the media to, as they like to say, "move on".

10 comments:

Paul said...

Some call Joe Wilson a great statesman, and are even proud of his “Shout Out”, so lets see, he says, he was told by the Republican leadership to apologize (he did not realize the magnitude of his mistake), he then gives his weak “not for reals” apology, but then goes on to those “Commentator Talk Shows” and basically says he real was not wrong and plays the victim card and calls for people to send in for money to support him for re-election. Had he kept quiet after his apology, that might have been the end of it but now that people know he lied about the apology the story will continue, until he is out of a job and the funny thing is, he does not see it coming. This summer has been rough for his beleaguered political party. At least he did not end up on the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC). In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme religious right (people who love to push their beliefs on others while trying to take away the rights of those they just hate) and that’s who they need to extract from their party if they real want to win. Good Luck, because as they said in WACO, “We Ain’t Coming Out”. The bithers, the teabaggers, the screamers, and the deathers continued extreme minority presence will become tiresome to mainstream America, if it has not already done so.

Gary Fouse said...

Paul,

First of all, you need to shorten your sentences, pal.

Look, I don't know if Wilson is a good guy or bad guy. He broke Senate protocol, which was wrong and has apologized. Maybe it is best to put this incident to rest on both sides.

I am not a Republican, nor am I a "birther", screamer, religious nut or anything else you are talking about. I am a conservative, and like millions of other people, am concerned about the direction Obama and the Dems are taking this country.

If you really listen to the people at the tea parties and town halls, you will see they are just average folks, not racists, not revolutionary kooks, just folks.

Gary Fouse said...

Paul,

First of all, you need to shorten your sentences, pal.

Look, I don't know if Wilson is a good guy or bad guy. He broke Senate protocol, which was wrong and has apologized. Maybe it is best to put this incident to rest on both sides.

I am not a Republican, nor am I a "birther", screamer, religious nut or anything else you are talking about. I am a conservative, and like millions of other people, am concerned about the direction Obama and the Dems are taking this country.

If you really listen to the people at the tea parties and town halls, you will see they are just average folks, not racists, not revolutionary kooks, just folks.

Lance Christian Johnson said...

Gary, I find it really interesting that whenever there's some sort of a rally against a cause you support (like the recent military action against Israel) you are very quick to point out the extremists and kooks. Not so long ago, you kept posting some of the same hateful, vitriolic pictures even though you were writing about different rallies.

Well, now the shoe is on the other foot, isn't it? I personally believe that you're right - most of the people are "just folks", but the loud, hateful, and obnoxious ones have taken over the conversation. And do people on your side criticize them and say that they don't accurately represent your point of view? Not from what I can tell.

Jon Stewart did a great bit where he showed scenes of extreme language being used by these protesters (You know, pictures of Obama as Hitler and stuff like that.) Then he showed clips of Hannity, O'Reilly, and Malkin talking about how the rest of the protesters need to distance themselves from such hateful language.

What was the joke? Those clips were from them talking about anti-war rallies. If they've ever said something similar about these current protests, I'd love to hear it.

The level of hypocrisy on the right goes all the way to 11.

Gary Fouse said...

Lance,

Why is it you keep quoting Jon Stewart. Is he really your primary source of news info?

And who are the ones who are "loud" "hateful" and "obnoxious", who have taken over the conversation? How about Pelosi calling them un-American? How about Garofalo calling them red neck racists? How about Olbermann calling them slack-jawed tea-baggers -with the sexual connotation implied? How about Maher calling them dumb? How about Howard Dean saying they are tearing the country down?

And those at the tea parties are not like those at the MSU rallies, calling Jews ugly names- or any other group- advocating-the killing of Israeli citizens, damning America calling terrorists heroes and martyrs. Where you get that comparison is beyond me.

Ask your self a couple of questions. Which side speaks well of our country, and which side always criticizes our country? Which side is aligned with organizations like and provides funding to ACORN? Which side aligns itself with Marxists like Van Jones and brings them into govt?

I'll stop there. I think that's enough.

Gary Fouse said...

Lance,

Why is it you keep quoting Jon Stewart. Is he really your primary source of news info?

And who are the ones who are "loud" "hateful" and "obnoxious", who have taken over the conversation? How about Pelosi calling them un-American? How about Garofalo calling them red neck racists? How about Olbermann calling them slack-jawed tea-baggers -with the sexual connotation implied? How about Maher calling them dumb? How about Howard Dean saying they are tearing the country down?

And those at the tea parties are not like those at the MSU rallies, calling Jews ugly names- or any other group- advocating-the killing of Israeli citizens, damning America calling terrorists heroes and martyrs. Where you get that comparison is beyond me.

Ask your self a couple of questions. Which side speaks well of our country, and which side always criticizes our country? Which side is aligned with organizations like and provides funding to ACORN? Which side aligns itself with Marxists like Van Jones and brings them into govt?

I'll stop there. I think that's enough.

Lance Christian Johnson said...

Why is it you keep quoting Jon Stewart. Is he really your primary source of news info?

Yes, Gary. Could be worse though. It could be Fox News.

In all seriousness, read what I wrote again. I didn't even quote him. He let their own words make them look foolish. It's really easy to do that with conservative pundits. It's amazing how often all he has to do is roll the film and then just give a "What the?" facial expression.

But even if I did quote him, what difference does it make? It's one of my favorite shows, and it the only reason that it's funny is because I inform myself of what's going on in the world beforehand. I wouldn't get the jokes if that was the only news show I watched!

And who are the ones who are "loud" "hateful" and "obnoxious", who have taken over the conversation? How about Pelosi calling them un-American? How about Garofalo calling them red neck racists? How about Olbermann calling them slack-jawed tea-baggers -with the sexual connotation implied? How about Maher calling them dumb? How about Howard Dean saying they are tearing the country down?"

It's amazing how selective you are in your examples. Not only that, but none of this disproves my point. I could look up examples of right-wing vitriol, but then you would attack the source or ignore it like you usually do.

And those at the tea parties are not like those at the MSU rallies, calling Jews ugly names- or any other group- advocating-the killing of Israeli citizens, damning America calling terrorists heroes and martyrs. Where you get that comparison is beyond me.

Again, you're being selective. I don't always disagree with you, and you often make a good point about these sorts of rallies. There are other times though when you paint with a mighty wide brush and claim that a few speak for the many.

Ask your self a couple of questions. Which side speaks well of our country, and which side always criticizes our country?

I don't care who speaks well and who criticizes. I care about who's telling the truth. If the truth makes us look bad, then that's the situation.

The thing is, I find myself siding with liberals most of the time, and I'm getting tired of being accused of not loving my country. If there's one thing that conservatives are good at, it's framing the debate - and they always turn it into "you hate America" if you don't agree with them.

Which side is aligned with organizations like and provides funding to ACORN? Which side aligns itself with Marxists like Van Jones and brings them into govt?

Oh, and the conservatives are so spotless. Gee...what party had the former segregationists and Klan members? We can play this stupid little game all day.

Gary Fouse said...

"Oh, and the conservatives are so spotless. Gee...what party had the former segregationists and Klan members?"

That would be the Democrats, Lance. Do the research.

Dixiecrats
Albert Gore Sr
William Fulbright
Sam Ervin
Robert Byrd
George Wallace
and on and on and on.

You better quit before you get too far behind.

Lance Christian Johnson said...

That would be the Democrats, Lance. Do the research.

Okay, my bad on mentioning the Klan. What about segregationists? Who opposed integration? Why did the Democrats "lose the South for a generation"?

And are you really trying to suggest that it would be difficult to find a lot of scandals with the Republican party?

I'll admit that I made an assertion without basing it on facts. It's pretty easy - might want to try it sometime.

Gary Fouse said...

Lance,

If you will recall, LBJ needed the Republicans to pass the Civil Rights Act because he had little support among Dems. Yes,it helped the Republicans capture the South, but today that has little to do with racism. It's a new South, lance.

Of course, there are scandals within the Repub party, and if I am not mistaken, I mention them in this blog. I have been quite vocal about bad apple Republicans. I don't think there is anything out there that can come close to ACORN.

Remember, I am an independent.