Wednesday, May 25, 2011
The Copts in Egypt
(New University)
The UC-Irvine campus newspaper, New University, has published this report on last week's Coptic Christian events at UCI.
http://www.newuniversity.org/2011/05/news/persecution-awareness/
Also today, Steven Emerson's Investigative Project on Terrorism has published this disturbing update on the situation in Egypt.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/2904/islamists-target-egypt-christians
Before we rush to embrace this revolution in Egypt, it behooves the world to closely monitor this troubling situation regarding Copts. If the Egyptians want to continue receiving foreign aid, they need to protect their religious minorities.
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You seem to forget what a mess the United States of America were for the first twelve years, before we got a constitution and a stable government together.
Before we rush to distance ourselves from the revolution in Egypt, perhaps we should sort out more precisely who is doing what to who.
"Egypt" is not mistreating "the Copts," and more than "the United States" lynched several thousand Americans of African descent.
You're starting with an agenda, then cherry picking facts to suit your prejudices.
Is there something to worry about in Egypt? Yes. Are there Muslims in Egypt who feel free to pillage the Copts? Absolutely. Is this what the revolution in Egypt is all about? Not hardly.
If you want something good to come out of the revolution that IS going on, get involved, like you do with Israel. Don't stand back taking pot shots.
What am I supposed to do, Siarlys? Move to Egypt and make it my life's work?
Siarly's posited:
"You seem to forget what a mess the United States of America were for the first twelve years, before we got a constitution and a stable government together."
This is called argument by red herring. Because what was done or not done by the US government over 200 years ago doesn't in anyway justify the persecution and murder of Copts at the hands of the Islamofascist pigs in Egypt.
BTW Gary there are Egyptian Coptic Christians in my ACT for America chapter. They paint a considerably less rosy picture of their lives in Egypt than the lying Siarlys.
The teaching of the Coptic language in Egypt is outlawed.
Nearly thirty years ago, my emphasis in college was Middle East(southwest Asia) and its relationship with US and US foreign policy . One of my professors studied at Cairo in the early 1960's where he relayed to us that he often would see Egyptian Copts who walked the streets of Cairo frequently swarmed by young male Muslims who would then beat them with their fists and other weapons. The Egyptian copts were beaten because they were not Muslim. The Spanish Inquisition continues today in the Middle East committed by those who subscribe to the religion of peace, Islam.
Two in a row, characters who don't know beans about history, pontificating on the meaning of life and the state of the world.
A mob of young punks, however reprehensible, is not a Spanish Inquisition; not unless their sovereign issues them uniforms, weapons, and marching orders. Anonymous must have been a punk pseudo-communist in the early 70s who turned punk pseudo-conservative in the 1990s, because his quality of thinking is identical.
Now, on to Anonymous, who makes up false statements, puts them in other people's mouths, then yells "Liar."
The point anyone who has studied history, rather than prattled about it, would recognize, is that after ANY revolution, there is a vacuum of power. It can be filled in many ways. The USA was lucky it got filled RELATIVELY well, although we had a few unresolved problems that resulted in a civil war, major uprisings and upheavals, etc.
Now, Egypt has a vacuum, a relatively modest one, since an intact army moderated the transition. In this vacuum, people of good will, and bad will, will move with greater freedom. That will have violent, vicious, results, and promising, productive results. Howe does it all end? It depends on who wins, and we can have some limited influence if we use the levers we have wisely, but don't make ourselves a target.
Ranting about how violence against Copts is the chief feature of the revolution currently under way is likely to strengthen the hand of the punks and weaken the chances of anything better happening.
Gary, I no more expect you to move to Egypt than I expect you to move to Israel. I have some faint hope you might think about the likely results of your words (assuming they have any impact on the world at all), rather than ranting about how you feel today.
Siarlys,
Your logic reminds me of a figure 8 stock car race.
OK, if that's the way things look to you, then go ahead and move to Egypt. I'm not stopping you.
"Egypt is not mistreating the Copts".
Your practice of Al Taqiyya needs a lot more work "Siarlys". Maybe they didn't teach you the first rule of lying at your Madrassah or mosque: your lies must be plausible.
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