Roger Hedgecock,a former mayor of San Diego and radio talk show host, had a San Diego State University student on his show on 2-24-10. I urge you to listen to this interview. It runs from about the 3 minute mark. What you will hear is a young female student studying for her teachers certificate who has been assigned by her teacher in an Introduction to Multi-Cultural Education class to read books with such chapters/titles as, "Re-thinking Columbus", and "Why I'm not thankful for Thanksgiving". Another reading describes George Washington as a "murderer".
Then she describes a previous experience at Mesa College (San Diego County) where she sat and listened to a professor criticizing the Iraq war and calling our troops "murderers". When one student, who was an Iraq war vet, objected, the professor replied something along the lines of, "Oh, that's a cute explanation" ridiculing the veteran for his service.
http://live.radioamerica.org/loudwater/player.pl?name=rhs&url=http://feeds.radioamerica.org/loudwater/rhs/000001067_000_000000011.mp3
Of course, the two dopey professors have their own right of free speech, which means they can stand up on their soapboxes in the classroom and indoctrinate their students-our kids-as to how evil their nation is. However, we have a right to know what our kids are being taught and what is being preached in our taxpayer-supported universities.
Remember those schools-San Diego State University and Mesa College.
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such chapters/titles as, "Re-thinking Columbus", and "Why I'm not thankful for Thanksgiving". Another reading describes George Washington as a "murderer".
While those chapter titles clearly indicate that they're pushing some sort of propaganda, don't you think that what we've traditionally been taught has been nothing but propaganda as well?
I mean, Columbus "discovered" America? How can you discover a place where people are already living? Sure, he's important to history, but saying that he "discovered" it is like me "discovering" my neighbor's backyard.
From what I understand, the Thanksgiving story is more myth than reality, and George Washington is only considered a hero because we won the Revolution. Had things worked out differently, he'd be considered a traitor and a terrorist by now. (Personally, I think that they should just teach the facts about him - from what I understand, I lean more toward him being a hero, but I'd prefer it if people could reach that conclusion for themselves.)
Lance,
Gee, sorry I brought it up. I'll let you know if there's a teaching vacancy at SDSU.
What? What did I say? Just asking questions is all. I didn't say that I was in favor of what they were doing.
These two examples are perfect for what is wrong with our education system. My daughter was looking at
SDSU and I told her no way. This was last year. SDSU was one of many schools she was thinking about attending. A long time family friend of ours had a son at SDSU for two years. He transferred because he was ridiculed in a history class for something along the lines of what the vet brought up in your post. This was not an isloated incident.
George Washington a traitor and terroist? Please share your sources, Lance. I need to enlighten my thinking as I may have brainwashed by my education from the 1950's to the 1970's. I will drink some kool aid while is read up on your sources.
Maybe there are some openings
at University of Oregon for you, Lance.
Lance,
Maybe you think it would have been better if Columbus had not "discovered" America, you know just kept going until he discovered Fiji or some place like that. At least they wouldn't be speaking French there.
Oh for the love of Thor. Maybe you guys need to go back to school, as you have some serious reading comprehension problems. (Or you're debating with the voices in your heads.)
Patriot, here is what I wrote again - note the part in bold.
George Washington is only considered a hero because we won the Revolution. Had things worked out differently, he'd be considered a traitor and a terrorist by now.
In other words, if the British had won and we had not gained our independence, he'd be considered a traitor, because the British Loyalists would have been the ones to write the history books. You also conveniently ignored when I wrote:
I lean more toward him being a hero..."
Crap, but you're selective in what you read. Speaking of which, Gary, here's what I said about Columbus with key parts in bold.
I mean, Columbus "discovered" America? How can you discover a place where people are already living? Sure, he's important to history, but saying that he "discovered" it is like me "discovering" my neighbor's backyard.
I'm not implying that we shouldn't learn about Columbus, but to say that he "discovered" America is ridiculous and insulting to all the people who were here thousands of years before that (not to mention the Vikings). As for his racist attitudes toward the indigenous people, those are a matter of record.
Again, the chapters in that book seem like a bunch of propaganda, but we have gotten nothing BUT propaganda regarding these subjects. You're just upset because it's not the propaganda that you were brought up with.
And one more time, I just want to state that I just want the facts to be taught. People can decide for themselves whether these people were heroes, villains, or something else entirely.
But Lance, what about Fiji?
Seriously, Lance, let's cut down the trees so you can see the forest. Let's go back to my orginal article and you tell me where I was wrong in posting the story and what I said.
Gary, you're the most binary-minded person I think that I've ever known. When did I ever say that I thought you were wrong? I was just trying to make a point. In fact, if you read my original reply, the tone is that I agree with you, and I think that what they're spewing is propaganda. My only point is that propaganda disguised as education is nothing new.
Geez...you're accusing me of not seeing the forest. Is this really such a hard concept to grasp?
Binary. I'll have to start using that word.
If I may get technical here on you, why don't you consider the thesis of the article rather than honing in on details?
Nuance. It's called nuance.
If I may get technical here on you, why don't you consider the thesis of the article rather than honing in on details?
If you put it that way, I have a hard time believing that this story from Mesa College is as simple as it's being made out to be. I know too much about "conservatives" and how they can completely distort what was originally said to take this on face value. (Need an example? Reread the responses of you and PatriotUSA on this very thread to what I wrote!) I'd be curious to hear the point of view of the professors themselves.
Nolan,
Actually, it is nit picking.
Lance,
professors are always welcome to comment on this post. I don't recall ever having one here, however. They have this little habit of never reading that which disagrees with them.
They have this little habit of never reading that which disagrees with them.
Have you met the kettle?
I do read the dark side, lance. I need to keep up on what they are saying. Do you notice how often I post what they are saying?
Gary, on more than one occasion, you have completely dismissed evidence that contradicts your opinion because you said that the source was "biased" - without giving any reason beyond that.
If you want me to be more specific, I can do so.
But just out of curiosity - what makes you think that the professors in question even read this blog?
Seems to me you just posted an article about what they were saying. As Lance pointed out, the professors themselves haven't been represented firsthand, have they?
Lance and Nolan,
I'm sure they don't read my blog. What do you guys want me to do, launch an investigation into who these professors are, seek them out and invite their comments? Even if I wanted to waste my time doing that, I could do the same thing times one thousand for all the other professors who do the same thing. The girl could have named them but she didn't. Hedgecock chose not to ask for their names, probably for a lot of reasons.
The girl could have named them but she didn't. Hedgecock chose not to ask for their names, probably for a lot of reasons.
I'm sure. One of those reasons being that it doesn't give them a chance to defend themselves.
I'm calling bunk on this story.
Appears to be quite an example of sound journalistic principals.
Principles! Not principals.
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