Did you see the one with the "Muslim" who got harassed there by the anti-mosque protesters? I use the quotes because he revealed to them that he wasn't even a Muslim. Apparently, he looked enough like one for them to yell at him.
Uncivil all around. I saw no evidence he was cursed out BECAUSE he was a survivor of the Churban Europa. (Holocaust is a rather poor choice of word, considering a burnt offering properly given in the Temple was called a holocaust).
Did you read about the two Coptic Christians who were threatened when a protester heard them talking in Arabic? They were there (for reasons Gary has presented before) to oppose the mosque.
Then there was the lunch wagon operator, who the protesters had no problem buying their food from, who was in fact Muslim, and still had in his pocket the authorization to deliver to the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald, back in the day...
Let's see here, someone gets cussed out in a heated exchange and a Muslim cab driver was brutally stabbed by an Islamophobe. Which is the more significant story worthy of being reported on this fine blog??? Why, the poor guy getting yelled at, of course!
The blond guy in the video is another example of the Left Wingers (who more typically support the building of the mosque near ground zero). You will often see this blind rage, the vicious obscenities flung out in all directions in almost every sentence. There was no reasoning there, only hatred in support of some inchoate principle.
If you visit left wing blogs, you will see the same obscenity laced invective all the time and any honest comparison will show only a fraction of this on the right wing blogs, like this one for example.
You will see the same hateful, mindless demonization by the Left Wing journalists, politicians, and intellectuals. It is bred in the Left Wing genes. That's just how they are. I wonder how the decent people on the left deal with this. They have to cringe when they see it.
If you visit left wing blogs, you will see the same obscenity laced invective all the time and any honest comparison will show only a fraction of this on the right wing blogs, like this one for example.
Examples, please. I've read a few left-wing blogs that do not match this. I've written about it myself, and I don't write this way.
I don't read left wing blogs, so I can't speak on what they say. Most of the people who read left-wing blogs seem to be self-professed right-wingers looking for a morning jolt. Oh, and Lance, who knows where to find them, I don't. I got here via Alexandria, which I got invited to by hanging around that well known left-winger, Rod Dreher.
Lance, What's the use of sending you examples? You don't look at them... at least not the latest one I sent you with the Prager article on Left Wing demonizing or the link to the running list of Islamic atrocities.
Why not just go to the Daily Koz and see the level of Left Wing discourse there yourself?
Oh, and Miggie, maybe you can send me a couple of links that have nothing to do with what we're talking about. Remember when you did that? Man...that was funny, sending me on a snipe hunt like that.
Miggie is sending you emailed examples Lance? I keep asking her to substantiate her inane accusations, but she hasn't posted one factual source here yet, on any subject.
Lance, You wanted me to send you examples (of demonizing obscenity laced invectives primarily from the Left and exactly what we have been talking about) and I said for you to go to Daily Koz and others like them to see for yourself. Then you say you don't read Daily Koz (!)
Trying to communicate with you is like trying to communicate with a TV set.
But Siarlys, Miggie keeps talking about facts! That means he must be using them, right?
And Miggie, I'm talking about the whole Coulter thing. You know, when you posted two links proving that paleontologists were doubting evolution? And yet not only did they not do that, but they didn't even have anything to do with the subject!
Lance, Can't face it can you ... too bad .. for you.
No amount of subject changing will change those damnable facts.
I thought that you would mature somewhat when I read you had a child. That usually happens when people get older and get responsibilities. It is far from universal. Some remain childish their whole lives.
No amount of subject changing will change those damnable facts.
What about the fact that you insulted me and posted two links to supposedly debunk my point, only to have those links not even address the issue at hand? (Again, this is regarding what I said about Coulter's lie regarding paleontologists who question evolution.)
Here's the thing; I wasn't going to give you grief about that. However, your constant insults toward me was a throwing down of the gauntlet. I'm going to needle you on this point over and over again until you show some humility and admit what a colossal blunder you made.
I've made mistakes while debating, and I've fessed up to them. You did something that either means that you A. have reading comprehension problems (my best bet) or B. are deliberately deceptive.
Lance. don't you see what Miggie is doing? It's the same thing that imams from CAIR do to Rod Dreher when he asks them if they subsidize Hamas or desire to impose Shariah on the United States... Miggie, like the Imams, goes into a self-righteous, long-winded, hysterical, accusatory, rant, without ever answering the question. It works for any political ideology, as long as nobody has the calm patience to call them on it.
Did you see the one with the "Muslim" who got harassed there by the anti-mosque protesters? I use the quotes because he revealed to them that he wasn't even a Muslim. Apparently, he looked enough like one for them to yell at him.
ReplyDeleteI heard about it. Unfortunate.
ReplyDeleteUncivil all around. I saw no evidence he was cursed out BECAUSE he was a survivor of the Churban Europa. (Holocaust is a rather poor choice of word, considering a burnt offering properly given in the Temple was called a holocaust).
ReplyDeleteDid you read about the two Coptic Christians who were threatened when a protester heard them talking in Arabic? They were there (for reasons Gary has presented before) to oppose the mosque.
Then there was the lunch wagon operator, who the protesters had no problem buying their food from, who was in fact Muslim, and still had in his pocket the authorization to deliver to the offices of Cantor Fitzgerald, back in the day...
Siarlys,
ReplyDeleteYou might want to ask some Coptic Christians how they are treated today in Egypt.
Let's see here, someone gets cussed out in a heated exchange and a Muslim cab driver was brutally stabbed by an Islamophobe. Which is the more significant story worthy of being reported on this fine blog??? Why, the poor guy getting yelled at, of course!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous,
ReplyDeleteI heard about the cab driver incident last night. It was wrong and the perpetrator should be prosecuted and put in jail.
Clear enough?
I have a few Coptic friends Gary. You seem to have missed what I wrote in the above message. Are we having an argument?
ReplyDeleteI guess I missed the point, Siarlys. What is the word...vague?
ReplyDeleteThe blond guy in the video is another example of the Left Wingers (who more typically support the building of the mosque near ground zero). You will often see this blind rage, the vicious obscenities flung out in all directions in almost every sentence. There was no reasoning there, only hatred in support of some inchoate principle.
ReplyDeleteIf you visit left wing blogs, you will see the same obscenity laced invective all the time and any honest comparison will show only a fraction of this on the right wing blogs, like this one for example.
You will see the same hateful, mindless demonization by the Left Wing journalists, politicians, and intellectuals. It is bred in the Left Wing genes. That's just how they are. I wonder how the decent people on the left deal with this. They have to cringe when they see it.
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If you visit left wing blogs, you will see the same obscenity laced invective all the time and any honest comparison will show only a fraction of this on the right wing blogs, like this one for example.
ReplyDeleteExamples, please. I've read a few left-wing blogs that do not match this. I've written about it myself, and I don't write this way.
I think that you just make stuff up sometimes.
Lance,
ReplyDeleteI suggest you peruse La voz de Aztlan. It is an eye-opener.
I don't read left wing blogs, so I can't speak on what they say. Most of the people who read left-wing blogs seem to be self-professed right-wingers looking for a morning jolt. Oh, and Lance, who knows where to find them, I don't. I got here via Alexandria, which I got invited to by hanging around that well known left-winger, Rod Dreher.
ReplyDeleteLance,
ReplyDeleteWhat's the use of sending you examples? You don't look at them... at least not the latest one I sent you with the Prager article on Left Wing demonizing or the link to the running list of Islamic atrocities.
Why not just go to the Daily Koz and see the level of Left Wing discourse there yourself?
I'm just saying that what you describe is not what I've seen. I don't read the Dailykos, believe it or not.
ReplyDeleteOh, and Miggie, maybe you can send me a couple of links that have nothing to do with what we're talking about. Remember when you did that? Man...that was funny, sending me on a snipe hunt like that.
ReplyDeleteMiggie is sending you emailed examples Lance? I keep asking her to substantiate her inane accusations, but she hasn't posted one factual source here yet, on any subject.
ReplyDeleteLance,
ReplyDeleteYou wanted me to send you examples (of demonizing obscenity laced invectives primarily from the Left and exactly what we have been talking about) and I said for you to go to Daily Koz and others like them to see for yourself. Then you say you don't read Daily Koz (!)
Trying to communicate with you is like trying to communicate with a TV set.
But Siarlys, Miggie keeps talking about facts! That means he must be using them, right?
ReplyDeleteAnd Miggie, I'm talking about the whole Coulter thing. You know, when you posted two links proving that paleontologists were doubting evolution? And yet not only did they not do that, but they didn't even have anything to do with the subject!
Whoo hoo...that was funny. Can you do it again?
Lance,
ReplyDeleteCan't face it can you ... too bad .. for you.
No amount of subject changing will change those damnable facts.
I thought that you would mature somewhat when I read you had a child. That usually happens when people get older and get responsibilities. It is far from universal. Some remain childish their whole lives.
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No amount of subject changing will change those damnable facts.
ReplyDeleteWhat about the fact that you insulted me and posted two links to supposedly debunk my point, only to have those links not even address the issue at hand? (Again, this is regarding what I said about Coulter's lie regarding paleontologists who question evolution.)
Here's the thing; I wasn't going to give you grief about that. However, your constant insults toward me was a throwing down of the gauntlet. I'm going to needle you on this point over and over again until you show some humility and admit what a colossal blunder you made.
I've made mistakes while debating, and I've fessed up to them. You did something that either means that you A. have reading comprehension problems (my best bet) or B. are deliberately deceptive.
Facts...stubborn things, aren't they?
Lance. don't you see what Miggie is doing? It's the same thing that imams from CAIR do to Rod Dreher when he asks them if they subsidize Hamas or desire to impose Shariah on the United States... Miggie, like the Imams, goes into a self-righteous, long-winded, hysterical, accusatory, rant, without ever answering the question. It works for any political ideology, as long as nobody has the calm patience to call them on it.
ReplyDelete