I am pleased to put up the latest posting from the National Black Republican Association on the activities of ACORN and their direct connection to Barack Obama.
If you don't care about what ACORN is doing-as we speak-then you give a damn about our democracy.
OBAMA'S ACORN VOTER SCAM
The Obama-ACORN Mantra: Let Every Fraudulent Vote Count ! !
ACORN, the radical community organization closely tied to Senator Barack Obama, is being raided by the FBI in state after state, eleven states thus far, for voter registration fraud. Obama served as the lawyer for ACORN in Chicago and as a community organizer trainer for ACORN. Obama also funneled millions of dollars to ACORN from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge while Obama was responsible for distributing funds from the Annenberg Challenge.
ACORN endorsed Obama and, as part of a nation-wide voter scam, Obama recently spent $832,000 of his campaign money to subsidize ACORN activities. ACORN launched a massive electoral fraud scheme, designed to get Obama elected by any means possible—legal or illegal. In typical Chicago-style politics, ACORN trolled the graveyards and registered dead people. ACORN also paid money and cigarettes as bribes to people for signing registration forms, often multiple times. Two witnesses who testified to ACRON's misdeed are Christopher Barkley, a Domino's Pizza worker, and Freddie Johnson who gave testimony during a hearing in Ohio.
Obama's association with ACORN and other radicals and shady characters, such as Rev. Jeremiah Wright, the unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers and convicted felon Tony Rezko, shows that Obama is a radical who lacks the character and judgment to be president.
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. fought to ensure our right to vote -- one person, one vote. Every fradulent vote cast undermines the value of our vote and should not be tolerated!
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Nuts! How ACORN got me into vote scam by Jean MacIntosh provides a report on two Ohio voters, including Domino's Pizza worker Christopher Barkley, who claimed that they were hounded by ACORN to register to vote several times, even though they made it clear they'd already signed up.
The Nuts at ACORN Could Cause Obama's Fall by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann provides details about the Obama-ACORN voter registration fraud.
Obama and the "Professional Black-Victims Cartel" by Tom DeWeese exposes Obama's intimate relationship with ACORN and multiple alliances with dangerous radicals, such as Bill Ayers, a member of the domestic terrorist group the Weather Underground that bombed the Pentagon, the US Capitol and police stations, killing innocent Americans.
Chilling video showing Obama caught saying ACORN and friends will shape his presidential agenda.
Shocking video clips from ACORN meetings proving the close relationship between Obama and ACORN, the radical group that pushes a 1960's-bred agenda of anti-capitalism, victimology and dependency on government handouts in poor black communities. The clips show ACORN community organizers chanting "OBAMA!" while speakers advocate the undisguised authoritarian socialism and anti-capitalism redistribution of wealth that will be led by Barack Obama if he becomes president.
Don't miss this video that exposes how Obama trained ACORN staff in how to intimidate mortgage companies and banks into giving subprime loans to people who could not pay them back. This video demonstrates how Obama is just a Chicago street thug with a law degree.
More information concerning the National Black Republican Association is at: www.NBRA.Info
© National Black Republican Association, 2008. All Rights Reserved.
I think this is a good, fairly even-handed write-up on the whole ACORN thing. Hopefully you won't dismiss it just because of where it's posted.
ReplyDeleteBryan,
ReplyDeleteIf you think that is an even-handed article appearing in the leftist Huffington Post with a title ("The Acorn Hysteria")-could I interest you in a bridge?
That article is a complete whitewash.
You may agree with it. You may think it is true, but it is still someone's opinion.
If voter fraud can't change an election, then why is Acorn trying?
It can change an election. Want examples?
1 1960 presidential election.
Mayor Daley's political machine in Chicago turned out the vote for Kennedy. All the inhabitants of Chicago's cemeteries came out to vote-and voted for Kennedy. It proved the difference in a close Illinois race and Illinois gave the election to Kennedy in a close election. When Nixon was told of what happened and advised to challnge it, he refused. he did'nt want to put the country through it.
2000 in Missouri. John Ahcroft was leading Sen McCaskill(who was dead) up until the final hours, when people began storming the polls in St Louis leading a judge to order the polls to stay open longer. Confusion reigned as the polls stayed opened-closed-reopened. In that period, St Louis turned the election to McCaskill's widow. It was all overlooked due to Florida, but again, Ashcroft refused to challenge the results.
You missed the main point of the article. ACORN isn't trying. It's some crooked ACORN employees who decided that it'd be easier to register fictional characters since they get paid by the registration. Do you honestly think someone is going to show up at the polls and try to vote as Mickey Mouse? And on top of that, actually be successful? That is the main point.
ReplyDeleteBryan,
ReplyDeleteIt's not just some crooked acorn employees. This goes to the top of the org. Who do you blame when acorn demonstrators storm into bank offices to pressure those banks to lend to low-income borrowers, which they have done?
The Obama campaign didn't give $832,000 to acorn just cuz a few crooks are filling out bogus cards so they can get paid.
As yourself why Obama's campaign gave them that much money?
Independant studies and the Justice Department itself found that the idea of widespread voter fraud isn't really there. The administration even tried to strong-arm US Attorneys into prosecuting ACORN even though the evidence wasn't there. Rove and Gonzalez were casualties of that mess.
ReplyDeleteDelwothio,
ReplyDeleteWhat independent sources are you quoting? If the Justice Dept determined there is no widespread fraud, why are they investigating ACORN now?
Are you saying that all the incidents and examples we have reported on are all a figment of our imagination?
I suggest you research the cases in Las Vegas, Washington State, Ohio, Missouri and numerous other states where invesigations have been conducted and people actually prosecuted (Wash).
It is highly likely that a close battleground state could turn on fraudulent votes in this election. That one state could determine the election. The prime candidate is Ohio. If that happens, you can celebrate Obama's win, but you can't celebrate what that would do to our democracy.
Of course, if you depend on the maionsteam news media for your news, then surely you think that all this stuff about ACORN is much a do about nothing. I suggest you do further research. It is happening right now.
Here are some studies:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.cohhio.org/alerts/Election%20Reform%20Report.pdf
http://truthaboutfraud.org/pdf/TruthAboutVoterFraud.pdf
http://www.projectvote.org/fileadmin/ProjectVote/Publications/Politics_of_Voter_Fraud_Final.pdf
In MO the people stormed the polls because they had been removed from the voter rolls (50,000 who voted in 1996 had been removed without notice) and later the DOJ forced them to stop erroneously purging voters from rolls.
This is the only copy of the final DOJ report I could find (sorry it's from the NY Times website)
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/national/20070411voters_final_report.pdf
Here's the fact sheet from the 2006DOJ report: http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2006/November/06_crt_738.html
Widespread voter fraud is a figment. There are certainly individual cases of illegal voting just as there are cases of accusations of voter fraud that turn out to be unfounded.
These numbers from the 2006 DOJ fact sheet don't seem to add up to anything useful in turning elections (these are nationwide numbers, to put them in perspective):
"Since the Attorney General’s Ballot Access and Voting Integrity Initiative was launched in 2002, more than 120 individuals have been charged with election fraud offenses. Eighty-six people have been convicted of voter fraud in that time frame.
Nearly 300 election fraud investigations have been started since the initiative began in 2002. There are now approximately 200 investigations ongoing throughout the country."
By all accounts they tried very hard to find systematic fraud (or even widespread yet unrelated fraud) without much luck.
Washington 2007: "A joint federal and state investigation has determined that this scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting," said King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg at the time. "Instead, the defendants cheated their employer, ACORN, to get paid for work they did not actually perform. ACORN's lax oversight of their own voter registration drive permitted this to happen."
ACORN helps poor people, minorities, and young people to register to vote. They hire thousands to do this work (paid hourly, NOT per registration card), and as with any organization there will be some slackers who won't work and just turn in false registrations. They spend millions of dollars on a highly-praised and sophisticated quality control system to root out these problems.
Most states require them by law to turn in every registration card they gather, so they separate the suspect registrations and flag them as suspicious. ACORN doesn't have to do that but they do. They turn in offenders and help prosecutors.
ACORN certainly could tighten up on their employee training, but even if fake registration cards are turned in, they don't end up as votes cast.
ACORN may well be accused of trying to influence election outcomes, but by enfranchising more Americans to vote, which is not illegal in itself. By contrast, election officials remove thousands of names because they seem to be duplicates despite the likelihood of two people having the same name or their names happen to match those of felons.
I don't depend on mainstream news. It's not meaty enough. I read and listen to different points of view and place value on them based on who's saying what, what their bias might be, and whether or not their information pans out.
The conclusions of these reports are typically that the real threat to voting rights is removing thousands of voters from the rolls based on flawed information. Some claim it's done on purpose and targeted at poor and minority populations. I personally couldn't comment on their motivations, but there sure is lots of evidence throughout history of one party or the other cheating to gain advantage and that should not be tolerated. The party in control typically suppresses the vote while the other party works to register more voters.
The current investigations aren't done, but if the recent past is any indication I doubt (based on research of my own) that your arguments will hold up.
Thanks for your time!
delworthio,
ReplyDeleteYou are referring me to projectvote.org for the truth??
I don't buy your argument that there is a massive drive out there to disenfranchise minority voters. There is nothing wrong in trying to keep ineligible people from voting.
If you want to pooh-pooh the ACORN issue, go ahead. I think it is serious and cases are being documented all over the country. Not enough to turn an election? We should both hope so.
I look at the content and check their sources. I dislike distortions from all sides and I don't dismiss information solely based on who coveys it.
ReplyDeleteI have a problem with the methods for keeping ineligible voters from voting that result in valid voters being made ineligible. Especially because the evidence of potential illegal voting is so slight.
If my name was removed from the voting rolls and I wasn't allowed to vote, I would not accept the explanation that it was done in order to keep some ineligble people from voting.