"And don't let anybody tell you that, uh, you know, it's businesses and corporations that create jobs."
She's baaaaack. Yes, it's Hillary Clinton, the successor to Milton Friedman, telling an audience of supporters for Massachusetts socialist Martha Coakley that businesses and corporations don't create jobs. This is priceless Hillaria.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/good-grief-hillary-clinton-says-dont-let-anyone-tell-you-its-corporations-and-businesses-that-create-jobs-video/
What I want to know is this: How in the world does this woman get so many supporters with that speaking style? I learned a long time ago that when she inserts that verbal tic, "You know..." in her sentences, that she is making it up.
Of course, we all know who really creates jobs, don't we? It's the job trees, the job fairy, and government in that order.
Jobs are a byproduct of corporations, if they create them at all. Often, corporations are the ones creating job losses by the millions.
ReplyDeleteHillary is a stopped clock on this one, not that she's terribly coherent about it.
Hey Gary! You have a "Say no to Scott Walker" ad running on your site! It even features a photo of our next governor, Mary Burke. She's not terribly inspiring, but she seems reasonably competent, and I'd vote for a yellow dog over Scott Walker.
ReplyDelete(Waste of a good ad though -- I'm already voting for Burke, the rest of you are in California, Texas, Illinois, and you all love Walker to death.)
Whether the creation of jobs by corporations is deliberate or incidental, the fact remains that without corporations there would be very, very few, if indeed any, jobs other than with government.
ReplyDeleteIf we are, for example, to have cars, then corporations/employees must build them, or government must, or we must import them already assembled from somewhere else. Are there any other sources I have not thought of?? Maybe like manna from heaven??
And if there are only government jobs, where do people who do not work for the government, or anywhere else for that matter, come up with the money to buy them??
I once ran a corporation (yes, Siarlys, I guess I am/was a robber baron, but a small, benevolent one). After I incorporated, the people I hired then had jobs which had not existed, and therefore at which they had not worked, before.
After I dissolved the corporation, they no longer had jobs with me. Accordingly, I would argue that, at least temporarily (which actually anything is), and contrary to your assertions, I was for a time a job-creator. If that is not the case, I don't know what I was. Pretty simple.
elwood! Have you forgotten the political talking point that is is SMALL BUSINESSES that create most of the jobs in America?!?!?
ReplyDeleteI don't place great confidence in statistics, but your unfettered faith in corporations is touching, if a bit unseemly for a Republican speaking in public.
One could equally well say that without consumers, there would be very few jobs... and that sort of positions the corporations as the middle-man, skimming their take off the commerce.
Its why raising the minimum wage is good for the economy. The spending of people who live paycheck to paycheck creates more jobs than the spending of people who have billions of dollars to buy each other out with.
As for your little enterprise elwood, if you hadn't incorporated, someone else would have, because it was the demand for the product that created the jobs. How much better it would have been if each of those employee's had been able to open their own little shop to feed that demand. And since economy of scale often renders that impossible, one could well argue that your enterprise was really a social one, not private or individual, and those workers created your "job" as much as you created theirs. It should have been a cooperative, and then you could not have individually decided to dissolve it.
Siarlys--I am aware that you (and almost all other left-wingers of whatever stripe) "don't place great confidence in statistics", and I fully understand why.
ReplyDeleteIt is because accurate facts and numbers and statistics invariably, and I mean INVARIABLY, undermine and quite handily disprove almost all, if not in fact all, those left-wing agendas, programs, theories, practices, and such-like, at least to anyone who is capable of thinking and exercising logic.
BTW, I am a fairly moderate conservative, not a Republican, thank you. However, if I should ever again start up a business, which is highly unlikely, you may be assured that it will most certainly be a cooperative (NOT!!!!!)
P.S. and BTW--Just what in the world prevented those "employees" (actually sub-contractors)from opening their "own little shop" (Utopia again)?? It wasn't me.
ReplyDeleteAny of them could have done so and competed with me. Is that not the "American way"?? If they had done so quickly enough, I might have been working for them rather than vice versa, and made less money in the process.
Sorry Charlie, you are WAY out of touch on this one.
What "accurate" facts and statistics, elwood? As Disraeli (a conservative) remarked, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. Any given statement of fact MAY be true. OR it may not. But I was taking a grain of salt to a factual assertion that undermined your own premise, not mine.
ReplyDeleteMaybe those employees didn't have the capital to buy the production machinery and couldn't get approved for a bank loan? Happens all the time. If it were easy, most Americans would be self-employed.