El Bad Guy
Abdul Alim Musa
If you want to see the contrast between Israel and her enemies here in America, look no further than this year's Al Quds Day rally in Washington. The Investigative Project on Terrorism has filed this report. All you need to know is that one of the speakers was the odious convicted drug dealer, ex-convict Clarence Reams turned imam Abdul Alim Musa, who is an open supporter of the Iranian regime.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/3716/israel-america-bashed-at-iranian-inspired-dc-rally
It is also noteworthy that this event was sponsored by Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) , which has chapters on numerous US campuses and allies itself with the various Muslim Students Associations in their never-ending campus war with Israel. Here at UC Irvine, where I teach, the local MSU hosted Musa back in 2006. I caught the end of his speech by chance as he was telling us that Islam was going to take over the US. I called him an idiot, and that day launched my activism on the UC campus.
If you happen to be a college student and are confused about who is right and wrong in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, all you need to do is connect the dots. MSAs- SJP-dirtbags like Abdul Alim Musa and his friends in Tehran. What more do you need to know?
What a sober, rational, observer needs to know is not what juvenile groups mouth off in favor of this or that from the comfort of America, but what the real claims of the actual parties (Israel, the PA) really are.
ReplyDeleteThis guilt by association may tickle your ego, but it is no basis for policy.
Anonymous and Gandhi are correct in the abstract. Simple justice would have required Germany, Poland, and Russia to yield land for a Jewish state, not the inhabitants of the British Mandate of Palestine.
But that is water under the bridge. The Israelis aren't going anywhere now. Like the "Dreamers" and "anchor babies" of the USA, they have grown up in Israel, even been born there.
They do need to recognize that the inhabitants who were already there are entitled to form a stable government and economic life.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteReally? Because Gandhi said so? Actually, the point of my posting was to show some of the people who are against Israel.
BTW: Can you tell me when the nation of Palestine was born and who was its first president, king, prime minister?
How about this? Jerusalem (not Al Quds) was the capital of what-3000 years ago? How many times in jerusalem mentioned in the Koran-vs the Old Testament?
"The Palestinians became a nation shortly after WW1 when the Ottoman Empire crumbled and the British created the nation of Jordan. After this the Arabs west of the Jordan River became a de-facto distinct nation."
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I don't know what the Jews did 3000 years ago. As for the Old Testament, whtever it says, Jews are not acting those things out now.
As for your description of Palestine as a nation, I can only repeat-there has never existed a nation called Palestine. During the Ottoman empire, it was geographical term,kind of like referring to the "Wild West". It was inhabited by Arabs and even Jews. When did the Arabs in that area start calling themselves "Palestinians?
BTW: Isn't a chunk of the land claimed to be 'Palestine" fall in present-day Jordan? Why is there no world wide outcry for the Jordanians to give the land back?
King Abdullah of Jordan agreed with you Gary. He wanted the remaining British mandate to be absorbed into his kingdom.
ReplyDeleteThe predicate issue though is that the people living there around the time massive Jewish immigration began are entitled to at least some of the land for themselves.
Yes, Jews wandered through the area circa 2000 BC(3000 is unlikely), and ruled an organized kingdom circa 1000 BC. But for most of the last 2500 years, political sovereignty has been in the hands of Assyrians, Babylonians, Medes and Persians, Macedonians, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Franks (Crusaders), Ottomans, and British. The Hasmonean kingdom was a brief exception. More Jews than not were in Diaspora before the Romans showed up, and most of the rest forcibly ejected by the Romans. (Unfair, but no Romans survived long enough for an international tribunal to indict them.)
In the intervening centuries, the land did not remain vacant, nor were those who moved in the same legions who expelled the Jews. Nowhere else in the world do people get to evict the population in possession on the ground that "my ancestors used to live here 2000 years ago."
Why Gary, does the fact that some Somalis moved to America and bought land from Americans entitle them to form a Somali state here???
ReplyDeleteNext you'll be defending the Communist Party's "black belt" theory of nationality!
Israel is an atypical case. The Jews who lived in the Ottoman Empire did not aspire to imminent statehood. The Zionists who arrived from Europe looked down on them, but bought land so as to live under the then-constituted authority that granted them entry permits.
After World War II, there were hundreds of thousands of displaced Jews, many of whom needed a place, any place, to come to rest, and Palestine looked like their best bet. The world was feeling guilty and inspired at the same time. So, Israel came into existence. That doesn't entitle Bibi to a blank check.