Hat tip to American Thinker
It isn't often I get to compliment a university, but a tip of the hat to George Mason University in Fairfax, Va. They stood up to the bully boys at CAIR, who tried to prevent Muslim apostate and critic Nonie Darwsih from speaking there October 5. Below is the report from Jerry Philipson at American Thinker.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/10/nonie_darwish_vs_cair.html
I have had the pleasure of meeting Miss Darwish. She is a courageous lady who must make her rounds under armed guard. Maybe the good folks at CAIR can explain why that is necessary. Never mind; I can give the answer: It is because she has left the faith and criticized it publicly. That is a death sentence. Maybe the good folks at CAIR can explain that one for us as well.
It is high time that someone stood up to CAIR and told them to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. CAIR is an unindicted co-conspirator in the recent Holy Land Foundation trial in Dallas, which involved fraudulent Islamic charities funneling money to terrorists in the Middle East. They are also a creation of the Muslim Brotherhood. They are a subversive organization. That is how CAIR should be treated.
That a university has had the gonads to do so merits a compliment.
The any university stands up to an attempt to bully or shout down a speaker deserves a compliment. CAIR has no more right to do this to Nonie Darwish than the McCarthyites had to do this to known communists. Darwish may be running any number of numbers, or making cross-cultural analogies that lack substance, but if so, her own words will condemn her sooner than any attempt at suppression. It is generally those who fear some truth in the speaker's agenda who have the motive to shut a speaker down.
ReplyDeleteNonie Darwish.
ReplyDeleteCourageous??? Maybe.
Crazy??? Definitely.
Take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv6TBnmc_vI
speaking of supporters for terror i see that you've blogged about the wallac sisters from the SF Bay Area before. you might find this interesting: http://proisraelctu.blogspot.com/2011/09/video-tutorial-pro-terror-peace.html
ReplyDeleteSiarlys,
ReplyDeleteEver heard Nonie speak? I have.
I haven't heard her speak, which is why I used the words "may be." You have spoken highly of many people you have heard speak, who I don't admire at all, so your endorsement doesn't reassure me. Ayan Hirsi Alli for example, while her account of her own experience is authentic, frankly doesn't know much about Islam, except that the semi-literate traditionalists who did these things to her told her it was mandated by Islam. Genital mutilation, for one, is NOT mandated by Islam. In areas of east Africa where it is traditional, Christians are coming up with pseudo-Christian arguments to sustain it too.
ReplyDeleteSo, I can't affirm that she's crazy, but affirming her right to speak is a far cry from endorsing whatever she said.
OK, now I've looked at the video. Darwish is semi-hysterical, uses a lot of unsupported adjectives, makes a lot of apocalyptic predictions, and provides no factual evidence for her rabid opinions.
ReplyDeleteIncidentally, if Gary Fouse endorses this rant, he has lost all credibility saying he doesn't hate Muslims. That is like saying "I don't hate Jews, I just want to annihilate Judaism."
Speaking of which David, your logo asserts that something should not happen, without which there would be no more Jews. Be careful about your choice of words.
Siarlys,
ReplyDeleteI only wish I could follow your line of reasoning.
The comments after the article are as good as the article. Well worth reading.
ReplyDeleteThere is a problem with Muslims in America that is unique and intractable. All other immigration waves have sought to assimilate into the wider culture for the advancement and betterment of the group within the society. This was true with the Irish, the Germans, the Jews, the Orientals, and others. And, for the most part they have succeeded.
The Muslims, on the other hand, cling to their old culture from the dysfunctional societies they ran from and then, incomprehensibly, seek to impose it on their host society.
They want to impose their vulgar antisemitism on a country that is well past that. They try to use our laws regarding free speech, for example, to shut down free speech they don't like. They have no understanding or appreciation for the corollary to free speech in that anyone can say what he wants then he gives the other person the chance to say what he wants. Shutting down or shutting out speech is alien to our culture but something they champion when the speech is likely to be something they don't like. It just demonstrates just how alien they are.
To the extent that CAIR represents Muslims in America, they are a major civil problem, not to mention the terrorism they are prone to try all too often.
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Almost every religious and ethnic group has tried not to assimilate in America. Read some Mike Royko Miggie... Italians beating up Poles who stray into their neighborhood, Catholics throwing rocks at "Christ-killing" Jews, Irish clannishly refusing to cozy up to Methodist camp meeting evangelists... somehow, being in America breaks that down after a while. It happens to Muslims too -- who incidentally come from a variety of nations and ethnicities, and are not particularly alike anyway.
ReplyDeleteGary, I only wish you were capable of offering or following ANY line of reasoning. First, you decide who your friends are. Then, without any rational thought process, you parade them before us and praise them to the skies.
Darwish is a real good saleswoman for CAIR. They are stupid to try to shut her down. She makes their case for them.
As for Hirsi Ali being a Muslim, she came from an east African culture in which lip service to Islam is the dominant religion. My copy of Marmaduke Pickthall's "The Meaning of the Glorious Koran" is enough to tell me she hasn't studied Islam, and doesn't know much outside of "This is the way it was in my village."
Like I said, what happened to her is real. It does not make her an expert on Islam.
"Your point?"
ReplyDeleteThat Miggie is wrong when she states that Muslims are the "only" immigrant group in America that refuse to assimilate. Plus most Arab and Muslims students I see at UCI seem fairly well assimilated (a few might have accents, but most can speak English fluently).
A great current example is how Jewish groups are whining about the Republican Value Voter's Summit being scheduled the same day as the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur.
Perhaps someone should inform these groups that the vast, vast, vast majority of American's are not Jewish (very thankfully) and we dont have to plan our political conventions to be Jewish compliant.
"...do these Orthodox or Hasidic Jews preach hate toward other religions in their synagogues?"
Probably. According to the Jewish holy book the Talmud, Jesus is a false messiah and Mary was a whore. Saying negative things about central, revered figures of another religion is a form of hatred.
Just my dos pesos.
Seljuks!!
ReplyDeleteGood Golly, Miss Molly!
The press too often goes to CAIR. CAIR has sucesfully self-appointed itself as leaders of Muslim community when in fact they don't really have much support.
ReplyDeleteIt should be noted that in a recent Gallup poll, most American Muslims do not feel there is a national Muslim-American organization that represents them.
When Muslim Americans were asked which group represents them
Only 12% of Muslim American males said CAIR.
Only 11% of Muslim American females said CAIR
See page 25
http://www.abudhabigallupcenter.com/148778/REPORT-BILINGUAL-Muslim-Americans-Faith-Freedom-Future.aspx
The statements from CAIR representatives after the students who disrupted the Oren program trial were really dumb. It is comforting to know that CAIR really doesn't represent most Muslim Americans but I already knew that but the poll was good to see.
- wejomerv
Thanks wejomerv. That's some useful data. It is great to see a point made by presenting relevant facts with a source that can be checked up on. It is a good question why the press bothers to report what CAIR has to say. I mean, they may as well quote Gary as "national spokesman for American conservatives," or me as "the leading voice of midwestern libertarians." (Neither of us is any such thing, lest anyone take this too literally).
ReplyDeleteOf course the irrelevance of CAIR as spokesperson for American Muslims doesn't make Darwish any less of a hysterical nutjob. And Gary, advancing a 2000-year-old claim for Jewish jurisdiction at the east end of the Mediterranean, does his friends no favors when he disclaims the relevance of intervening events only 1000 years old.