Remember that program back in the 1990s when our esteemed State Department brought in about 85,000 Somalis and dumped them in various communities around the US, most notably Minneapolis?
"Uhhhh....yeaaaah."
That was another great idea courtesy of our government. Well, anyway, it seems many of these folks are pining for the good old days in the old country. So they are heading back to join the Somali terror group, Al Shabaab. Patrick Poole in Creeping Sharia has the report.
http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2011/07/14/somali-americans-from-minnesota-leave-us-to-wage-jihad-fbi-unaware/
Heh heh. Are you surprised that the Department of Homeland Security is totally in the dark?
But there is good news. While Janet Napolitano, Eric Holder, James Clapper, John Brennen and others are looking for batteries for their flashlights so they can start looking for their asses, we do have people like Poole, Steve Emerson, Frank Gaffney, and others gathering the facts and keeping us informed. I suggest that DHS start tapping their phones so they can keep up to snuff on where the threats are.
So let's deport them all wholesale, let the Shabab shoot the ones who really liked it in America, and enlist the rest. Satisfy you, Gary?
ReplyDeleteAnother muddleheaded policy that did not consider consequences. These were easy to see now we are paying the price, in spades.
ReplyDeleteWe should enforce our laws and if any guilty party is not a citizen they should be shipped back to country of origen. We would. Get rid of our worst ellemants.
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ReplyDeleteAnother muddleheaded policy that did not consider consequences. These were easy to see and now we are paying the price, in spades.
We should enforce our laws and if any guilty party is not a citizen they should be shipped back to country of origin. We would get rid of our worst elements and incentivize a voluntary self directed outward immigration by all their similarly inclined friends and relatives.
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I thought Gary questioned letting 85,000 Somalis in, on the ground that some undetermined number have run back to join the Shabab. But a few posts later, he denies that he has anything at all against Somalis in the United States, ONLY against those who joined the Shabab.
ReplyDeleteYeah, and Hitler at one point considered sending all the Jews to Madagascar rather than to Auschwitz.
A more coherent argument COULD me made against bringing refugee populations in wholesale, and that includes Vietnamese and Hungarians... when they get here, they will find themselves un low-paid jobs, living in substandard housing, and taxpayers will tire of subsidizing them. While some will succeed, others will form ruthless street gangs, and others will turn to drugs. If we can't live up, long term, to the promises we wish to make, maybe we shouldn't consider massive airlifts to this country a viable solution.
Either that, or we should live up to what we thought we were prepared to offer. As I recall, at the time of the Somali airlift, this was written up as a solution for a substantial minority brought centuries ago as slaves from Bantu-speaking areas further south, who had not cultural ties in the lands of their ancestors, but were despised by their fellow Muslims in Somalia.
Bringing them here was one way to give them an opening... but are we just using them as union-busting labor in the meat packing plants and leaving the rest to wander the streets?
Siarlys,
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Yes we brought Vietnamese here when S Viet Nam fell because they were on our side and would have been slaughtered. They came here as a traumatized group .Most have turned out quite well here. Yes some young ones joined gangs, but they wrre a distinct monority. As for your ramblings about the Somalis, I can't figure out what you mean.
Gary,
ReplyDeleteDo you really think it is worth the effort?
Every once in a great while you get a coherent sentence but to figure out a point when there isn't one there to begin with is a useless exercise.
It is like trying to follow a free association trail of a whole bunch of wrong, irrelevant, mistaken, biased, thoughts.
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Well Gary, before you write about the entire project of bringing 85,000 Somalis to the U.S., perhaps you should study the entire history of the project, its rationale, its execution, its initial results, and the present condition of all 85,000 plus their children. Then you could speak coherently on the subject, instead of saying "I don't know what you are talking about" when I introduce a breif summary of a few of the relevant facts. That isn't much, but it's 1000%+ more than you offer.
ReplyDeleteSince Anonynazi is now describing 85,000 people formerly enslaved by Muslim merchants as Islamofascists, in the same manner he describes the bin Laden gang, the Pakistani ISI, and a number of other demographies, and of course the Shabab who wanted nothing to do with them, there is no coherent reply to be made to his incoherence. The perpetrators, the victims, the innocent bystanders, and people half way around the world, are ALL Islamonazis in this character's comic strip.
Siarlys,
ReplyDeleteI never said all Somali immigrants were problematic. However, there is a youth gang problem in the Minneapolis area, they are always complaining about time off for prayers in the meat-packing plants and some are running back to join al shabaab. Most are not assimilating. And nobody can question this relocation program and question whether it has been beneficial for us?
As Ronald Reagan used to say "There you go again."
ReplyDeleteI would agree that in any mass refugee assimilation program, we need to stop and think about the way second generations of many waves of immigration tend to form youth gangs.
Time off for prayers in meat packing plants is the fruit of a well-intentioned law, championed by many Christians, that requires employers to accommodate employees' religious obligations. Originally it was meant to protect evangelical employees from indifferent or atheist-liberal employers. The law is the law.
"Some are running back to join El Shabab. Legitimate concern, but it hardly justifies your headline, or a broadside about the entire program. Most of those who came in the first place would have been subjugated or executed by El Shabab. Maybe those coming back from America aren't looked at the same way.
You can question any government policy you want. That's fundamental to American citizenship. But if you want people to take you seriously, you should do a little more homework.