Monday, January 24, 2011

Interfaith Dialogues-Here's One to Avoid

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Hat tip to Pajamas Media

Pajamas Media has an article about interfaith dialogues by Ryan Mauro. Having attended a couple of these events and not being satisfied, I read this article with interest. Mauro points out that the Muslim organization behind this Muslim-Christian alliance is more than questionable.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/muslims-of-the-americas-new-target-gullible-christians/

Here is what the Anti-Defamation League has to say about Muslims of the Americas:

http://www.adl.org/extremism/moa/default.asp

Here is what South Asia Terrorism Portal has to say about Sheikh Mubarek Ali Gilani.

http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/pakistan/terroristoutfits/jamaat-ul-fuqra.htm

To be honest, I don't know much about these reputed Muslim residential/training camps in the Northeast, so I will withhold comment here until I get up to snuff. In the meantime, I am asking myself why this program is limited to Christians and Muslims.

Why not Jews? In fact, why not Buddhists, Hindus, Baha'ists as well?

If it is because the participants have a problem with any of the above groups, then they lose all credibility as far as I am concerned. It appears that the Christians in this alliance also have some pretty negative attitudes about Jews as they demand to know why "4,000 Jews were absent from the World Trade Center on 9-11" (click "proclaim" on the Mauro article).

So, let me make sure I understand the situation. We have this group called Muslims of the Americas founded by a guy in Pakistan named Mubarek Ali Gilani, who was the guy that Daniel Pearl was on his way to interview when he was kidnapped. They team up with this Christian group to form the United Muslim-Christian Forum,  and together they issue a statement demanding to know why 4,000 Jews didn't show up to work in the World Trade Center on 9-11. They don't invite Jews or other religions into their organization.

Starting to get the picture?

9 comments:

  1. Just another moderate Muslim group.

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  2. Once again, it could be anyone but, yet again, it is Muslims. Come to think of it, it is always Muslims in these attacks and bizarre terrorist threatening situations. They used to be excused because some time in history some group was supposedly just as bad. When that got old and over-used, it was that there were other current day terrorists that were doing the same thing. When it became obvious that the number and scope of the Islamic terrorism was so much more extensive than anyone else that comparisons were laughable, that justification went embarrassingly out of style. Then came the effort to claim that perhaps they weren't Muslims at all but conceivably some other group. Then, of course, just like this group in the training camp, they are clearly Muslims, that justification for Muslims in general fell by the wayside as well... even though a few Christians were involved in this particular case. (Clearly this is not a Christian led organization.)

    Well, it just continues to tax the imagination ... how can one keep up making new excuses for the ROP day after day. That doesn't mean that the Lefties won't continue to deny, discount, and deflect as they (and the cavilers) always do.
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  3. Jesus said ‘I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.’”
    This is why there can't be an interfaith dialog. It is hogwash and a waste of time.

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  4. Ingrid,

    But we do need to live peacefully together.

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  5. Ingrid, if you are some sort of Christian, you show no sense of creative inquiry, and if you are not, you are doing a rather limited job of challenging Christians to rise above their prejudices.

    Institutional religion always gets divine revelation wrong, al Qaeda and its ilk being merely the latest example. Look at the context of John 14.

    The disciples hadn't just asked him whether unbelievers could be saved from the fires of hell. They had just asked him borderline idolatrous questions, like "show us the Father and it sufficeth us" and "we don't know where you are going, so how can we find the way?" He was telling them, not unborn generations of infidels, you idiots, haven't you learned anything, I'm about as close as you're going to get.

    We can put the words of Muhammed in their original context in a similar manner and find ourselves in a very reasonable, peaceful world. Why not? Well, first there are the Christians and Muslims and Jews who will gnash their teeth and react with homicidal fury when their misconceptions are debunked. Then, there are people like Gary Fouse and Mamoud Ahmadenijad and Meir Kahane who are so anxious to villify the next guy that they won't even credit this sort of debunking as a productive way to go.

    And there's Miggie, lost in his own revery, mumbling the same lines over and over and over and over and over and...

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  6. "we don't know where you are going.."

    And we don't know where you are going, Siarlys.

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  7. Siarly, I am a true Christian but don't belong to any organisation or church. I am too old to challenge anybody to rise above any predjudise or anything else for that matter.
    I just sit back and listen, most of the time shaking my head. You know that Lance is my son. I think I did a good job, he thinks for himself.

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  8. prejudice, prejudice, prejudice. Sorry, I was in a hurry.

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  9. Well Gary, I guess you and Doubting Thomas are in the same boat. No, I'm not in the same boat as Jesus, nor can I walk on water. You stand by your words, I'll stand by mine.

    (You know exactly where I'm going citizen; you're afraid I might be right.)

    Ingrid, somehow I got the notion you were Lance's mother-in-law. You did a good job with him, but you didn't inspire him to think just like me. Contrary to what Gary might presume, I don't mind. The world would be a very boring place if everyone thought like me, and rather dangerous, because I count on my fellow citizens to notice all kinds of things I don't get around to.

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