"One person's hate speech is another person's education."
Is it true that on March 2, 2010, several Jewish students at UC-Irvine met with a UCI official to complain about anti-Semitism at UCI and were told that said official would not condemn anti-Semitism for fear of backlash from the Muslim Student Union?
Just a question.
Just a question.
Is it true that it's really easy make up completely unverifiable insinuations with nothing to back them up?
ReplyDeleteJust a question.
Anonymous,
ReplyDeleteI am also sensitive to publishing rumors. However, have you ever heard of the phrase "from the horse's mouth"?
Note also that I did not name the persons involved, but I do know their names.
If these people were truly willing to back up their accusations then they shouldn't be starting anonymous rumors.
ReplyDelete(Yes, I know it's somewhat ironic that an anonymous poster is pointing this out, but I'm not making accusations against people like they are.)
One of the accusations was made very recently in a public forum. I was present. The person reporting was the recipient of the comment. (Horse's mouth").
ReplyDeleteAt this point, I have chosen to omit names. I think that is fair.
I wonder if they got these wonderful remarks on tape.
ReplyDeleteIt would be very interesting to say the least.
My name is Natalie Katz and I am the person who made the comment, to Gary Fouse, on Sunday, October 31st.
ReplyDeleteI am a former UCSD student.
I was part of a group of 9 Jewish students who met with Chancellor Marye Ann Fox, and Vice Chancellor Penny Rue to discuss the Jewish communities concerns with the campus climate. We told them how we are often made uncomfortable in class when professors make anti-Israel statements and we feel we can not speak up without jeopardizing our grade.
Penny Rue's response was that if they don't make us feel uncomfortable, they are not doing their jobs.
Given that it was a private meeting, we did not video tape. If you would like to confirm this further, I am happy to put you in touch with the other 8 students who were in attendance, as well as with our Hillel staff member.
Gary, I'm writing up my story and I will send it to you soon.
A very conservative orthodox rabbi told me that if he is offended by someone's speech, his lawful recourse is not to have that speech suppressed, but to offend the speaker right back. He is very consistent about this. That is what he says about Muslims who are outraged that their religion has been disrespected, and what he says about Nazis calling Jews names. Physical assault is actionable, speech is not. He can throw anyone he wants out of his own home, but the person can stand on a public sidewalk repeating the same words that can him ejected from the house. One has to have some confidence that passersby can tell a jerk from a man (or woman) with something to say.
ReplyDeleteIf you post Ms. Katz's story could you crosspost it to Radarsite and Monkey in the Middle? I can spread it from there.
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