Saturday, April 18, 2015

What Happens When You Rescue an American Flag at Valdosta State University

Hat tip Campus Reform

The two videos in the below link are very disgusting. A group of black students at Valdosta State University in Georgia hold a protest against racism by walking over an American flag. A young female military veteran attempts to take the flag and put it somewhere where it won't be trampled. The police come. At one point, the vet and a protester are holding on to the flag and won't let go. Guess who gets arrested. In the second video, you can see a cop standing by while students walk over the flag.

It's been a long time since Cubs outfielder Rick Monday saved an American flag being burned by two jerks who ran onto the field with the flag and were trying to set it afire. Nobody charged Monday with theft of someone's property. He was a hero. But that was so long ago.

What these students at VSU did was wrong. They may have had the legal right to do that, and the flag may have rightfully belonged to them, but it was wrong. I refuse to believe that most blacks feel that way about this country even given our past history (I said past history not present history.) Yet, on university campuses, what do you think they are taught when they take all those black history courses? They are taught not only about slavery and segregation, but that America is still a racist country and blacks don't have a chance. In the first tape, you hear one of the men talk about "white privilege". That's the buzz word now. When you can say discrimination, you talk about white privilege. This incident shows how wrong he is. That young lady who got arrested had no white privilege. (Yes, she was released without charges, but when you get handcuffs put on and placed in a police car, you are in custody. They can, of course, later release you without charges.)

The cops acted like amateurs and showed a lack of training. They should have been able to defuse the situation. Instead, they are wrestling a patriotic young woman to the ground and handcuffing her. They did not arrest the black woman who was also holding onto and refusing to release the flag.

The whole episode is disgusting.


Siarlys Jenkins said...

They are taught not only about slavery and segregation, but that America is still a racist country and blacks don't have a chance.

That attitude is one of the most enduring vestiges of white supremacy, which taught people of African descent exactly that. Some of them have internalized this sense of inferiority to the point of believing it.

We need a Malcolm X to teach young people of African descent to throw this attitude away, as the lie taught to their ancestors by some overseer, that it is, and to get on with making something of their lives.

darrin mcdougald said...

Georgia Code, Title 1, Chapter 4.

§ 50-3-9. Abuse of federal, state, or Confederate flag unlawful

It shall be unlawful for any person, firm, or corporation to mutilate, deface, defile, or abuse contemptuously the flag of the United States, the flag, coat of arms, or emblem of the State of Georgia, or the flag or emblem of the Confederate States of America by any act whatever.

Gary Fouse said...

Looks like the cops arrested the wrong person.

Gary Fouse said...

We had Malcolm X. He did indeed bring that message. His failure was that he made no contributions to integration.

Nobody is telling blacks they are inferior. Do you really think a generation later they still internalize that? I think that the problem is that a segment got left behind in the inner city. That and our overly generous social welfare system created a dependent group of people where two-parent households were discouraged. Single parent families and absentee fathers are the real cause of the current problem. Ask larry Elder.

ckent said...

if this bothers you as much as it does me, please contact valdosta state university. contact any donors and let them know of your opinions, boycott any functions they back. Realize they are allowing these points of view and are in fact encouraging them. its time to have real equality and real justice and thats these ideals and standards apply to white people as well. i hope this female vet files charges of dereliction of duty and sues this university. i hope federal funding will be cut as it stems from a government that flies the same flag. disgusted these people considered American.

Squid said...

The young patriot should take this to court and embarrass the cops who acted stupidly. The cops probably do not know the U.S. or Georgia Code and need to be "re-educated". It appears that there was no cause for the arrest and this needs to be addressed as a civil rights violation as well.


Gary Fouse said...


I have a feeling the young lady is already meeting with her lawyers as we speak.

Siarlys Jenkins said...

Do you really think a generation later they still internalize that? I think that the problem is that a segment got left behind in the inner city.

I know they do, because I live in the inner city, and work with children in the inner city. I ride my bike through the inner city. Once things get into the culture, in the sense that great-grandpa and grandpa and daddy all did/said such and such, it becomes "normal." I've talked to kids who've internalized the notion "I'm supposed to be stupid and get bad grades and get into trouble, that's how we black people are." I've seen some break out of that cycle too.

You don't really know much about Malcolm X, but he was really good at learning new things and abandoning old, incomplete, notions. He was never for "integration," but after being set up by Elijah Muhammad (before actually being murdered), he did make common cause with Martin Luther King, and wrote movingly about how he'd like to change what he said to the young white woman who wanted to know what she could do to help.

As for the Georgia statute, I believe there is a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that burning a flag is expression protected by the First Amendment, so the state statute would be unenforceable. Not that I think people who choose to burn the flag have immunity from getting their butts kicked.

Gary Fouse said...

You are probably right. As for Malcolm, he was a complex person. I wonder what he would think today.

Siarlys Jenkins said...

He'd start by ripping out the vocal cords of most of the current crop of rap artists. In Malcolm's book, you don't TALK about women like that -- any women. One of the things that drew people into the Black Muslims was the sense of order and respect. (On the other hand, they did have banners referring to "our most valuable property, our women" as one of the things they needed to "protect.")

If you understand Malcolm X was a complex person, there is hope for the republic.