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Sunday, September 26, 2010

Update on USC Incident



Here are the latest details regarding the September 19, 2010 incident in which two representatives of the pro-Jewish, pro-Israel group Stand With Us were ejected from a public event at the University of Southern California. The event was being held by Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), a radical group of malcontents, who were planning to train petition gatherers for a measure to put an Israel divestiture on the the California state ballot. The below link is an account of the incident by the USC Annenberg TV.

http://www.atvn.org/index.php/news/story/dps_investigates_student_event/

Here is the statement by Roz Rothstein of Stand With Us:

"Along with many others, I received an internet notice about a September 19th meeting for people interested in promoting a state ballot initiative to divest state retirement funds from some companies that do business with Israel.


The notice was entitled “Los Angeles Campaign Kick off and Petition Circulator Training to Qualify the Israel Divestment Initiative for the California Ballot.” The event was to be held at USC where the USC Students for Justice in Palestine [SJP] had rented a room. Judging from the notice, this was a general event for people interested in the divestment initiative. It was not limited to any particular group, students or otherwise. Community members were also invited to attend.

In fact, despite its billing, this event was not open to the public—certainly not to those whom the organizers thought might not agree with the proposal, as StandWithUs rudely learned.

As the CEO of StandWithUs, I felt it was important that someone attend the event to learn more about the divestment effort. I headed down to the meeting with StandWithUs Senior Developer Gary Ratner. We had no intention of speaking or disrupting the event in any way. Our goal was simply to learn more about the divestment initiative and campaign strategies.

At first, everything seemed fine. About 20 people were there when we arrived. As we walked in, a woman sitting near a table of handouts greeted us just as she apparently had greeted the others. But as we reached over to pick up some of the campaign’s literature, a woman already seated in the room suddenly stood up and loudly cried out, “NO. NO. They cannot be here.”

She quickly walked toward us with an angry and challenging demeanor. It was Yael Korin, a leader of the Los Angeles Woman in Black chapter and a member of the Israel Divestment Campaign [IDC]. She came close to me and asked for my name. When I politely told her, she told me I could not remain in the room.

“What do you mean?” I asked. “I don’t think you are permitted to ask people to leave. You chose to hold this event at a University with a student organization (Students for Justice in Palestine) renting the room for you. I don’t believe you can simply tell people they can’t stay with no reason for the exclusion, and we only here to listen.”

Her answer was that our very presence was a disruption. “If you stay, none of us will speak or we will move the event to another room.”

I remained calm but firmly told her that we planned to stay. I believed that she had no right to ask us to leave because the event notice appeared to be a general invitation and it was sponsored by SJP, a student organization on campus that had not indicated that only members were welcome or that it was a private event. Korin had somehow managed to “move me” outside the door, and the woman who had greeted us at the table of materials followed us out. Gary stayed with me.

Yael again told us we had to leave, and I again told her we intended to stay, and that she could call the campus police if she wished. I stressed to her that we had not come to disrupt the event—and hadn’t disrupted it. We were there simply to listen.

The other woman actually grabbed my arm and told me that I could not go back in.

Listen,” I responded, “you cannot touch me like that, and you need to move because we are going inside.”

I opened the door and the woman holding my arm pulled me back but had to let me go because I walked forward.

Yael followed us and announced to the audience that no one should speak in front of me because I am from StandWithUs which opposes divestment. “They are the exact opposite of what we want to do here.”

I looked at the audience and said, “I assure you that we are just here to listen, and we will not disrupt the meeting.”

Gary and I took our seats while Yael went to call the campus police.

We sat quietly and listened for the next 15 minutes when Yael returned with the campus police who asked me and Gary to join them outside the room. We complied and followed them.


Two police officers, Officer Ayala and Officer Clayton, separated me and Gary. One spoke to Gary, the other to me.

I begged Officer Ayala and later Officer Clayton to check the university’s policy because they would probably find that the SJP cannot just pick and choose who can be seated in a University room after they had publicized an open meeting.

I repeatedly urged the officers to realize that they were likely violating university policy, and to please check. I told them that similar incidents had occurred at UC Irvine when the Muslim Student Union [MSU] tried to tell people they had to segregate according to gender, and took upon itself the right to decide who could or could not tape their events. In those incidents, the campus police had told the MSU that they are not allowed to issue such dictates on that University campus. I thought the same policy would certainly apply at USC. I also asked officer Ayala to come back in the room with me and sit with me as I listen to the lecture. I said he could then see that we mean no harm, that we would sit quietly, that we are simply there to listen. But he said he couldn’t or wouldn’t do that, no reason given.

Gary asked Officer Clayton if he would also enforce a similarly arbitrary decision if the SJP and IDC had said gays or blacks or others were not welcome at their event.

On this day, however, the policemen took the side of the Women in Black and the SJP…. and asked us to leave. Although we were extremely disappointed, we of course complied with the police directive and left. But make no mistake, this was not our choice. They made it very clear that they would not let us return to the room.

As we walked away, we met a young woman who was so upset and frightened by the treatment we had received that she had also decided to leave. She was mortified and said that she would be notifying the student community as well as the campus administration. She said that she was fearful of going back in the room.

On the way home, Gary and I called the head of USC’s Department of Public Safety. We spoke to the Watch Commander, Officer Sandell, who already knew what had happened. She said she stood by the officers’ decision to force us to leave. I urged her to investigate USC’s policy regarding groups like SJP and Women in Black that don’t allow people whose opinions they don’t like to attend an event being held on campus. She promised to get back to me by Thursday, September 23 after she will have had an opportunity to look into the policy.

Officer Sandell kept repeating that we were asked to leave to “keep the peace.”

I explained that we were absolutely peaceful, just sitting quietly and listening. I repeated that I was physically stopped from moving by an elderly woman and that the organizers were the ones who had caused a disruption and were not “keeping the peace,” not us.

I regret that Women in Black and SJP were permitted to violate our right to listen to their presentation even though the event was held at a prestigious University, and particularly saddened that they were aided by the police.

I strongly believe that there is something wrong with their decision to force us to leave. After all, by any definition, Gary and I are part of the “public.” However, I am willing to accept the possibility that SJP had a right to select who on the campus and in the wider community would be permitted to attend because they paid to rent the room and therefore were able to discriminate against us… but it’s hard to believe that such tactics are permitted at USC, especially given there was no disruption except the one caused by SJP and IDC who object to StandWithUs and anyone else who disagrees with them.

Below, please read the announcement that was sent out about the event. At no point does it state that this was a private event, and that attendees would be screened to approve their opinions and political views.

A disturbing aspect of this episode is that anti-Israel activists seem more than willing to violate fundamental American civil rights and University standards to further their cause (as we have seen happen at UC Irvine, San Jose State University, De Paul University, and far too many more campuses). At USC, they did so not just with the acquiescence, but even the complicity of USC police. It is not surprising that a young woman who attended wrote an article denouncing the IDC-SJP and USC police actions

This is not the America these young women or we know, but it seems to be the kind of America that anti-Israel activists wish to impose on “the public.”

Here is the announcement that we responded to:

SUNDAY: Los Angeles Campaign Kick off and Petition Circulator Training to Qualify the Israel Divestment Initiative for the California Ballot

Posted by uscsjp on September 18, 2010

Join the California Israel Divestment Campaign

Israel Divestment Campaign To Train Petition Circulators this Sunday, 9/19

Event: Los Angeles Campaign Kick off and Petition Circulator Training to Qualify the

Israel Divestment Initiative for the California Ballot



Date/Time: Sunday, September 19, 1 PM

Location: University of Southern California

Taper Hall 212 (THH212);

http://web-app.usc.edu/maps/#upc

Entrance 3 on Figueroa south of Jefferson, Parking Structure X

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Below is the statement of USC media representative James Grant.

Here's our overview of the incident we discussed: thanks in advance....James Grant, USC Media Relations. Statement can be attributed to our Senior Vice President for Administration, Todd. R. Dickey


"USC Statement on September 19 Incident - Students for Justice in Palestine


The University of Southern California is committed to freedom of expression and open inquiry.



On Sunday, September 19, 2010 the USC Department of Public Safety (DPS) was called to an event on the UPC campus being sponsored by a group calling itself Students for Justice in Palestine. The event was titled: Petition Circulator Training to Qualify the Israel Divestment Initiative for the California Ballot.



When DPS officers arrived at the event, they were unaware of the nature or purpose of the gathering. One of the organizers of the event requested that the officers remove a member of the audience because she had reportedly been disruptive. The DPS officers asked the individual to leave the venue and she complied.



After the event, a USC student sent an email to the Interim Senior Vice President for Academic Affairs and Provost, Elizabeth Garrett, expressing concern about the manner in which DPS handled this incident.



Provost Garrett shared this information with Vice President for Student Affairs, Michael Jackson, who, on Monday, September 20th, initiated a review of the circumstances surrounding the incident. Based on this review, the following measures are being implemented:



• The DPS Watch Commander will apologize to the individual who was asked to leave the event and acknowledge that this decision was in error.



•Student groups on both sides of this issue will be reminded of university rules regarding meetings of this type.



•Additional training and information will be provided to the DPS Watch Commanders so this type of incident is not repeated. This will include providing the telephone numbers of key individuals in the division of Student Affairs with whom they can consult when questions arise.



•Additional measures may be implemented as we learn more about this situation."


This is evidently circulating on the blogosphere:



http://danareport.com/


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Now let me make a few comments. First of all, in the interest of full disclosure, I know Roz Rothstein. I consider her an ally. It was Rothstein who drew Amir Abdel Malik Ali into making clear statements of support for Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad during his recent appearance at UC-Irvine in May 2010. He also made inflammatory comments about Jews in response to Rothstein's questions. As a result, the UCI chancellor spoke out publicly against those remarks and Ali and the MSU were totally discredited.

Secondly, Rothstein is no disrupter. She attends controversial events like these and reports on them. She also asks critical questions of the speakers. In short, she follows the rules of civilized discourse-unlike her opponents.

As for the Women in Black, they are a Berkeley-based group of radical, malcontented women who hate Israel. Every Friday, they show up on the UC Berkeley campus, where they loudly demonstrate against Israel. One of these ladies is reportedly married to a UC Berkeley professor who also likes to come out and heckle Jewish students when they protest in an orderly manner against the drawing of swastikas in campus rest rooms.

Thirdly, I find it hard to believe Mr Grant's statement that campus police were unaware of the nature of the event when they were called to the hall. Are you telling me that SJP was holding an anti-Israel event, an issue that that is arguably the most heated topic on any university campus, and the campus police didn't know the nature of the event?


That doesn't say much for the competency of the police or the university. And what unruly action did the police observe that justified removing Rothstein and her deputy from a public event?

As you remember, I wrote an article on this event before it happened. It didn't take a lot of imagination to know that something would happen.


"Uhhhh....yeaaaah."

Except for the university and campus police.

6 comments:

Squid, said...

It does not surprise me to hear that both campus Officers Ayala and Clayton do not know the policies of USC and the law of the land, which is, in part the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Both officers should be admonished for their actions in this situation and thoroughly trained in the law and policies of USC. I cannot imagine that Watch Commander Sandell did not know about this situation, prior to the ejection of Roz and Gary. Subordinate campus police should be in contact with the Watch Commander prior to an action. This is just good police procedure. Sandell needs to be admonished for her lack of knowledge of the USC policies and procedures, which she admitted she did not know. Korin should be admonished for her behavior and told that if she continues to deny First Amendment rights to citizens, she will have to take her organizing meetings off campus.
The question is: Will the ACLU investigate this violation of civil rights?

Squid

Siarlys Jenkins said...

You really can't take yes for an answer, can you Gary? The salient point is, the university acknowledged that the officers were in error, and affirmed that campus policy is to the contrary. Next time the Women in Black try to pull such a number, the officers, and the watch commander, will have this fresh in their mind.

Although I am sympathetic to many kinds of citizen complaints about police officers abusing their authority, I also have read enough appellate court cases to know that officers have a terribly complex web of legalities to try to keep track of and adhere to. I can sympathize with the position the officers were in, at that moment. You probably could be too, if you think back on your work with the DEA. They had a "citizen complaint," which, on its face, could either be ignored, or accepted as valid. Of all the many regs and policies in the rule book nobody has time to read unless they have a direct interest in looking one of the rules up, this is one that will be firmly impressed upon their minds for the forseeable future.

Gary Fouse said...

Siarlys,

I usually have a knee-jerk response of supporting the cops. However, campus police report to a dean on university campuses. That has led to some pretty embarrassing lack of action by cops on the UCI campus when it was called for.

I have to go back to my original statement. In an event of this sensitivity-which it is on university campuses, the campus police should have been aware of what was going on and had a presence there.

To me, it was ineptitude and possibly political correctness going on.

Siarlys Jenkins said...

Uhhh, yeah.

And what did the Dean say when the matter was reviewed?

Gary Fouse said...

Due to the publicity, USC has admitted they screwed up. I was pointing out why the Campus Police were inept that they didn't even know about the event and thus were not in some manner present. This whole issue is a volatile one campuses-example: UW at Milwaukee, which is where you live, right? There was a physical altercation there last year between Jewish and Pro-Palestinian students when the Jews were trying to hold a pro-Israel event.

So yes, now USC campus police must undergo more training.....

Siarlys Jenkins said...

Good, the USC police need the training.

We've beaten that Milwaukee confrontation to death. The next day, Jewish and Muslim students held a pointed but mutually courteous discussion, in public, out on the square, and things have remained relatively calm ever since. Participants on both sides described it as difficult, but necessary, and productive.

I've mentioned this before, and all you said was "You mean in Milwaukee? I've covered that." It appears you are more interested in playing up conflict than in anyone seeking resolution. (What happened at USC was definitely not resolution.

Trying to assess what the two police officers were thinking, reminds me of the time a friend of mine's son said a security officer had told a fellow student at a public middle school that he couldn't bring a Bible into school in his back pack. Of course, that's entirely wrong. Not only the letter of the First Amendment, but every applicable Supreme Court precedent, establishes that the young man had a constitutional right to have that Bible in his backpack.

But think of the poor security officer. He works at a school where kids have to go through metal detectors and have their packs searched, every day. He's primed to look for contraband. He's trained to be afraid of being fired if he misses anything. Somewhere in the back of his mind is some silly propaganda from Liberty Counsel that God is not allowed in public schools. So, he errs on the safe side.

The cops here were in a similar frame of mind.